Leahy's Little Sneer

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Wednesday, December 5, 2001; Page A29
By Michael Kelly

 

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, who enjoys a good snit as well as the next member of Congress, is piqued because President Bush did not seek his counsel before issuing the order allowing suspected terrorists who are not U.S. citizens to be tried by military tribunals. Leahy found out what the administration was proposing in the newspapers, as if he were some citizen or something. Oh, the ignominy.

"There's been no consulting," Leahy sulked last week. "These things just get announced: George Washington got a British spy once by doing this, so thank goodness we've got recent precedents." This little sneer is wonderfully instructive, and not just for what it says about the senator's self-centeredness and shallowness.

In mocking the Bush administration for citing precedents for its limited transgressions against civil liberties in war, Leahy seeks to point up the absurdity of the administration's claim to extraordinary recourses. He succeeds only in pointing up the irresponsibility of his own position.

For precedence is the point of the whole thing. Or, rather, lack of precedence. Any intellectually honest contemplation of the situation we are dealing with here must begin with the obvious: The United States has never faced a threat like this. It has faced graver threats, but never one of this nature -- and that unprecedented nature is such as to demand unprecedented curtailing of liberties.

To remind the senator, the unprecedented threat is this: Al Qaeda, a global terrorist organization, has declared war on the United States and is waging that war not through conventional battlefield means but through attacks on American institutions and people wherever they exist. We have ample reason (Sept. 11) to know that this organization can inflict massive punishment inside America. At war with this enemy, we appear close to destroying its leadership; but thousands of trained followers are still planted in cells around the world.

Since the suicide bombers of Sept. 11 were able to legally enter and live in America for many months, we have to assume that there are additional al Qaeda terrorists also hidden in America. Going by track record, we have to assume that these terrorists are well financed, well trained, self-sufficient and equipped with specific targeting plans that require no triggering orders. We have no idea who these people are, or what their plans are, or when they will attack again. We have no intelligence penetration of al Qaeda, and because of its purposely fragmented structure, we cannot crack the organization's secrecy through conventional spying, such as eavesdropping on messages between headquarters and the field. We know that it takes only a few al Qaeda terrorists, in our country, to strike past our inadequate internal defenses and inflict great casualties.

In other wars the nation had to deal with spies, saboteurs and enemy sympathizers at home. But the current situation is truly novel. This time, we are not dealing with a fifth column at home that may help enemy armies abroad or in their defined battles against our armies. We are dealing with elements of the enemy army here, on a battlefield that is the nation.

Facing this unheard-of threat, a government that did not engage in the immediate and widespread detention of foreign suspects here, and did not aggressively question anyone who might help in the hunt for hidden terrorists here, would be guilty of an impeachable failure to defend and protect the nation.

Likewise, with the use of military tribunals. The New York Times, in a page-length editorial, writes of Bush's order: "The order's breadth is astonishing, allowing for the indefinite detention and trial of any non-citizen the president deems to be a member of al Qaeda, or to be involved in international terrorism of any type, or to be harboring terrorists." This is exactly wrong. What is astonishing is the nature of the threat to this country; the Bush administration's response to this threat is, in context, not only reasonable but required. What would be astonishing (not to mention criminally negligent) would be for the government to treat the issue as critics such as Leahy and the Times seem to wish, as just another chapter in the old liberties-vs.-law-and-order debates.

We are not talking about rounding up the usual suspects. We are talking about rounding up soldiers of an enemy army before they have a chance to strike again on their chosen battlefield -- here, in America, against us all. To ignore this context is to make no argument at all.

© 2001 The Washington Post Company

 

Reply 1 - Posted by: Rhonda, 12/5/2001 12:28:12 AM

All I can say is, Michael Kelly, WOW! I am awed by your straight-talk express.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Standing Wolf, 12/5/2001 12:30:03 AM

Hey, c'mon, eh? Let's be fair! If it weren't for irresponsibility and that Condit individual's family values, representatives of the Democratic (sic) party wouldn't have any principles at all!


Reply 3 - Posted by: bam53, 12/5/2001 12:31:13 AM

In the words of the previous administration...

"Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Pretty cool."


Reply 4 - Posted by: punkinpie, 12/5/2001 12:33:32 AM

Leahy is a persnickety varmit
perniciously puffed per his own phlegmatic air
phooey!


Reply 5 - Posted by: 3M_TA3, 12/5/2001 12:34:29 AM

Little Sneer and Leaky Pants!


Reply 6 - Posted by: maes, 12/5/2001 12:40:10 AM

I know he is an old man but I would love to destroy thst sneer with a good punch in his mouth. Let him sneer with no teeth in his mouth.


Reply 7 - Posted by: tofu, 12/5/2001 12:41:46 AM

Thank you Michael Kelly.

Leaky Leahy's ego is writing the checks the bank can't cash.


Reply 8 - Posted by: Sugaree, 12/5/2001 12:42:34 AM

Why the President refuses to point out what a traitor Pat Leahy is is a mystery to me. Here is a man who resigned from a senate committee for leaking information that got people killed. Here is a man who to this day refuses to bring federal judical appointments up for a vote, risking national security. Here is a man worried about the rights of terrorists sent here to kill US citizens. Here is a man who never spoke out against the rapist yet felt free to harass AG Ashcroft. A man who leahy is not even qualifed to clean his tiolet. George Bush should be talking to the people of Vermont and the United States about what a danger this traitor is to the country and how we would be better off if this person never sets foot in the US senate again after his term expires.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Rhonda, 12/5/2001 12:47:14 AM

Lotta X voters in Vermont.


Reply 10 - Posted by: droopydog, 12/5/2001 12:58:09 AM

I'm always astonished at how Osama Bin Leahy gets elected but then I realize that I'm from the land of Boxer and Feinstein. Lord help us!


Reply 11 - Posted by: Packard Man, 12/5/2001 1:11:31 AM

I was going to suggest that Leahy needed a high colonic...but then I heard Rush refer to him as "Senator Depends" and I thought maybe there might be too much leakage there already.


Reply 12 - Posted by: mysterylover, 12/5/2001 1:15:52 AM

Michael Kelley gets it. Senator Leaky Leahy has lost it.


Reply 13 - Posted by: tomlandryismyhero, 12/5/2001 1:19:40 AM

ol penis head is a hoot


Reply 14 - Posted by: MadTexan, 12/5/2001 1:27:12 AM

Maybe we could just convene a little military tribunal for the good senator - isn't leaking classified information against the law, even treasonous?


Reply 15 - Posted by: dot66, 12/5/2001 1:59:35 AM

Anybody ELSE here remember how the ENTIRE media elite went bonkers accusing Newt of whining about the seating on Air Force One? Those same media elite won't utter a PEEP about the whining of Senator Depends. Thank God for people like Michael Kelly.



Reply 16 - Posted by: fade610, 12/5/2001 2:36:14 AM

When massive ego gets in the way of sound, intelligent thinking, the big fall is only a matter of time.

The Dum-Dums in the press are giving Leahy plenty of air time....plenty of rope to hang himself. This braying Camels A$$ needs to re-read the polls. Unless he shuts up pronto - the fall is inevitable.


Reply 17 - Posted by: patriot in texas, 12/5/2001 3:38:28 AM

Boycott Vermont!

Skiing.... Try New Hampshire and NY
Vermont Maple Syrup
Ben and Jerry Ice Cream
Vermont Cabot Cheese

Hit them in the pocketbook.


Reply 18 - Posted by: MA Jackson, 12/5/2001 4:16:55 AM

Leahy, take your snit and go suck up some
maple syrup. I'll never buy another product
from Vermont again until their citizens regain their sanity and send someone to
represent them who has some ethics.


Reply 19 - Posted by: MeridenMike, 12/5/2001 8:30:43 AM

Don't want to help Jeffords in Vermont, either, #17.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Country Brit, 12/5/2001 8:31:07 AM

How do people vote for these democrats? WHY?


Reply 21 - Posted by: Conserver, 12/5/2001 8:35:12 AM


Patrick J. Leahy = Hose Bag


Reply 22 - Posted by: LEPhunt, 12/5/2001 8:36:34 AM

Let the Vermont Chamber of Commerce know how you fell about Leaky Leahy, Turncoat Jeffords and Socialist Sanders and your desire to punish a State that would elect such a crew to represent them...the pocketbook IS the only way to make a lasting statement...


Reply 23 - Posted by: halfgenius, 12/5/2001 8:42:23 AM

I agree, there are good people in Vermont who will get hurt in a boycott, but these two traitorous turncoats need to be retired, Vermont is therefore on my no-no list.


Reply 24 - Posted by: JAN, 12/5/2001 8:42:27 AM

By whining about not getting a prior consultation from President Bush he called attention to exactly WHY he wasn't consulted in advance! President Bush had to say nothing about Leaky Leahy's previous transgression......the rest of the media did it for him. GO W GO


Reply 25 - Posted by: wuss, 12/5/2001 8:44:26 AM

It's the republicans fault, no doubt they did not want to seem 'divisive' so did not run political ads that showed this fools true colors, the fact that he helped to kill American servicemen by leaking information.

These are the country club republicans who don't mind losing, they just like to have their 'titles' to show as they sip mixed drinks at the golf club and ogle the waitresses.

If there is a group I detest more than the Leahy types, it's these ineffective, old men in the republican party who prevent the young turks from rising in the party and winning elections.


Reply 26 - Posted by: billgrant, 12/5/2001 8:45:27 AM

Leahy is an embarassment and could only come from those wacked-out Greenies in Vermont. Lovely state. Horrible politicians,by and large. Jeez,what a loser. Does anyone outside the Beltway take this idiot seriously?


Reply 27 - Posted by: WWWD, 12/5/2001 8:56:18 AM

I can't believe Michael Kelly ever worked for the NYT. Talk about a Clash of Civilizations.


Reply 28 - Posted by: Bluestocking, 12/5/2001 8:57:50 AM

Good idea: Let's boycott Ben & Jerry's ice cream. I've been looking for a meaningful way to make sacrifices for the war effort, and this could be it. To Ben, Jerry, and the Vermont dairy farmers who supply their company: Enough! Stop sending terrorist-coddling, tax-cut-obstructing senators to Washington or your pocketbooks will feel the effects.


Reply 29 - Posted by: MeBwana, 12/5/2001 8:59:34 AM

FREE, DUMB, & UNIQUES?

Leaky/Jerkfarts 2004


Reply 30 - Posted by: TailgunnerJoe, 12/5/2001 9:04:38 AM

Senator Pruneface is more and more becoming the face of the 'Defend al-Qaeda' movement.

I predict next election cycle, he's toast.

Benedict Jeffords & Lord 'Haw Haw' Leahy.

Traitors no matter how you look at 'em.


Reply 31 - Posted by: Julianne, 12/5/2001 9:07:15 AM

People like Leahy and Jeffords keep getting elected because the voters think they will get a "handout." They never get one. They are duped and too ignorant to figure out people those two harm our country. Some public servants live off the government.


Reply 32 - Posted by: x, 12/5/2001 9:09:04 AM

I'm just glad I'm not from Vermont, I'd be ashamed if I were.


Reply 33 - Posted by: Bill Schafer, 12/5/2001 9:10:38 AM

Leahy!!! This is the Senator that had to resign from the Senate Intelligence Committee because he leaked sensitive info that got an Egyptian Security Agent killed and Pres. Bush is suppose to consult with him? I think not.


Reply 34 - Posted by: Conserver, 12/5/2001 9:10:58 AM

Grrrrrrr.

I've reached the point where I now HATE the dimospastics with a purple passion. America wake up, the dims aren't helping anyone but themselves, in spite of what they say.


Reply 35 - Posted by: R. Edgar , 12/5/2001 9:19:24 AM

Question here:

Can we nuke Vermont along with the terrorist savages?

Just asking.


Reply 36 - Posted by: cowboy billbob, 12/5/2001 9:21:32 AM

Senator Depends aka Leadky Leahy is intoxicated with self esteem that only he and the dupes that elected him cannot see. All else can see what a grandstander and an nth degree clymer he is. Let's don't let the use of "clymer" fade away.

However, the sad situation is that when such as he and Hildebeast are put into office, the entire nation is impacted. If only the stupid voters of their states were affected, I doubt if anyone would care.


Reply 37 - Posted by: bansaw, 12/5/2001 9:22:48 AM


Its no wonder we need a.. two..Potty..
system.....lots of dirty underwear...
on both sides of our house!!


Reply 38 - Posted by: chrisrenegar, 12/5/2001 9:29:10 AM

Call Congress at 202-224-3121, ask for Leahy's office and let it rip. I have twice now. Called him a communist and his secretary got ticked. Hung up on her. Flood his line with calls.


Reply 39 - Posted by: rightgirl, 12/5/2001 9:34:09 AM

I wrote this jackass a letter last week telling him to butch up and, most importantly, SHUT UP. Bush consulted people about his decision, it just wasn't Leahy.

Will someone tell him to tuck tail and go sit in a quilting bee with the girls?...Wait, I am a girl...we don't want him either.


Reply 40 - Posted by: pomom, 12/5/2001 9:37:31 AM

Leahy and the rest of his henchmen on the judicial committee are salivating through there sneers at the thought of getting even with John Ashcroft. I hope John holds it together and makes Leahy, Feingold and the others look like a$$holes.


Reply 41 - Posted by: wuss, 12/5/2001 9:39:35 AM

Check his website, he is bringing home the pork. He also seems to have a good handle on serving the voters of his state when it comes to issues they will most likely need.

He is not a genius, he isn't even average, but he does understand that the people who elected him want certain things from the senator, we republicans can learn from this, if we want to get elected we will have to be good at doing the same thing.

It really hurts me to write this but I think we need to wake up and understand why people like this stay in office.


Reply 42 - Posted by: shut_up_you_spastic_lefty_moron, 12/5/2001 9:43:21 AM

Questions we'd love to hear the mainstream media ask Sen. Leahy, but never will:

1. Senator, one of the Judiciary Committee's primary roles is to approve nominees for vacant Federal judgeship positions. Why aren't you doing your job?

2. Senator, when you were a child and got this whiny, did your mother slap you or just lock you in the root cellar for an hour?

3. Senator, you have publicly complained of the lack on consultation on important, confidential matters by the Bush Administration. In light of your inability to keep your damn fool mouth shut when American lives are at stake, are you really all that surprised?

4. (from Helen Thomas) Senator, I have a red pony. His name is Mittens. Are you a Demmycrat? Bluubbblullblublll...

5. Senator, how long have you been suffering from menopause?



It'll never happen, but it's nice to fantasize sometimes.


Reply 43 - Posted by: freedomlover, 12/5/2001 9:48:47 AM

This little "dustup" is a diversion. Leahy and his liberal friends in the media know they won't win any arguement about the tribunals-- and don't care.

They just want to make sure nobody notices they are crippling the judicial system by delaying approval of the President's nominations for the federal court.

It is time for the President to take on the enemy within. Expose Leahy and Dashle for what they are -- people more interested in gaining power than in democracy and the survuval of American freedom.


Reply 44 - Posted by: Sooner, 12/5/2001 9:50:45 AM

Don't forget that if Jeffords had not been a turncoat, all these bloated fools wouldn't be heading up committees. I'm already dreading today's hearings. I hope that Ashcroft got a good night's sleep because they're going to run him through the ringer again.


Reply 45 - Posted by: westernskies, 12/5/2001 10:04:51 AM

In cowboy lingo Leahy is one of them fellers that think the sun comes up just to hear him crow!


Reply 46 - Posted by: shurnuff, 12/5/2001 10:08:55 AM

I wonder where the leftie sight pests are loitering these days?


Reply 47 - Posted by: convert, 12/5/2001 10:09:36 AM

As one who spends each workday deep, deep in DIM territory, I can tell you that these DIMS don't care about the truth, etc. when it comes to their representatives. No matter what the Clintons, the Leahys, the Condits, of the world do, the most you could hope for is that the voters would stay home. They would never, NEVER, vote for a Republican.

Folks in my workplace were absolutely aghast and heartbroken to learn that I had "gone over to the dark side." I'm something of a pariah. They are convinced of their own intellectual and spiritual superiority and would join the Taliban before they would do anything remotely seen as supporting a Pubbie.

That said, continue to scream long and loud about these outrages. The good news is that many, many people are tuned out and apolitical like I was for so long and will eventually respond when the stench overwhelms them.


Reply 48 - Posted by: unix_geek, 12/5/2001 10:12:59 AM

Reply 49 - Posted by: wolfeblitzed, 12/5/2001 10:15:39 AM

LEAHY RECORD ON IMPEACHMENT:

Violated oath of impartiality by voting to dismiss the trial without allowing the House to present their case.
Voted for a mock trial without deposing witnesses.
Voted for a mock trial without presentation of transcripts or video of witness testimony.
Made trial a sham without any live testimony.
Voted for a mock trial without closing arguments.
Voted to give the defense advance notice of the House Manager's closing arguments.
Allowed Mr. Clinton to get away with perjury.
Allowed Mr. Clinton to get away with obstruction of justice.

What Leahy use to think about the rule of law - when it suited him:
"""The House managers have warned that should the President be acquitted, it would damage the `rule of law.' I strongly disagree, because the supreme rule of law in this country is the Constitution; that is what we have to uphold.""


Reply 50 - Posted by: rcdubay, 12/5/2001 10:16:32 AM

OK, Senator, let's go through this one more time: THEY WANT TO KILL US ALL.

Now, sit down and hush. Your 15 minutes are up.


Reply 51 - Posted by: unix_geek, 12/5/2001 10:18:39 AM

Reply 52 - Posted by: LEPhunt, 12/5/2001 10:21:00 AM

Letters probably won't get to him because obviously now they are well screened, phone calls and e-mails, although they too rarely get through...go to www.vermontchamber.com, and get to the contact us section, and let them know how their economy is going to be at an even greater risk thanks to their choice of representatives...also, is there not ONE Republican Special Interest Group out there that could finance a major TV Ad campaign reminding America of his treason, and also Little Tommy Dashole's Wife's role in selling Airline Security for campaign contributions to the DNC as a member of the FAA ?


Reply 53 - Posted by: wolfeblitzed, 12/5/2001 10:23:34 AM

LEAHY THE LIAR (HIS POSITION ON JUDICIAL NOMINATIONS IN 1999 WHEN THERE WERE LESS THAN 70 VACANCIES, NOW THERE ARE OVER 100!!):

Leahy, Ranking Member of the Committee, said when commenting on the unacceptedly slow pace of judicial confirmation in 1999, "We are not doing our job . . . We are really being dishonest and condescending and arrogant toward the judiciary."

Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Patrick Leahy wryly noted, "[t]he only thing the Judiciary Committee does not `hold’ any more is judicial confirmation hearings."

Leahy urging the Senate to act promptly to fill the federal bench vacancies that "threaten the efficient administration of justice."

Leahy decried the conservative threat to block all judicial nominations in the next year as
""a reckless and disproportionate response. . . The target here may be the president, but the hostage is the criminal and civil justice system . . . It’s the holiday season and the end of an era. The country would cheer if we would just leave behind this poisoned political atmosphere as a relic that we do not intend to carry into the new millennium""

WORLDS BIGGEST HYPOCRITE!


Reply 54 - Posted by: Snowy Owl, 12/5/2001 10:25:15 AM

Leaky Leahy or AKA Senator Depends, that is just too funny. Rush has been calling him Senator Depends because he was kicked off the Intelligence Committee for leaking classified information. But Leaky Leahy is also appropriate for this loser. Vermont must be so proud to have him and that traitor Jeffords representing them!


Reply 55 - Posted by: crackerbox, 12/5/2001 10:32:38 AM

I'm from Tennessee & It's not just Vermont, ( although the stench they give off is overwhelming) it's the whole of New England............Isn't it ironic that the section of this country that brought us this great Republic has turned into a Socialist bastion??????.........The Founding Fathers must be whirling in their graves!!!!!!!


Reply 56 - Posted by: wolfeblitzed, 12/5/2001 10:33:44 AM

Last week, Republicans sent Sen. Leahy a letter saying that "once the anti-terrorism legislation is completed, there is no higher priority than filling the vacancies that exist in our federal courts." The letter, signed by every Republican on the Judiciary Committee, reminds Leahy that the Senate has confirmed just twelve of the 60 judicial nominees the President has sent to the Hill.

* In 1999, Sen. Leahy called it a "crisis" that the federal courts had 70 unfilled seats. Now, on his watch, there are 106 vacancies.

* In 1999, when there were about half the vacancies there are now, Sen. Leahy claimed that "any week in which the Senate does not confirm three judges is a week in which the Senate is failing to address the vacancy crisis."

* Today, nearly 13 percent of the federal judiciary is empty because Sen. Leahy refuses to schedule hearings for President Bush's nominees.

* 106 federal judgeships are currently vacant, 40 of those vacancies have been declared "judicial emergencies," and on one appeals court -- the Sixth Circuit -- 7 of 16 seats are empty. Although this dwarfs the 70 vacancies that Sen. Leahy has referred to as a "vacancy crisis," the Senate has only confirmed 12 of the 60 men and women nominated to the federal bench this year.

* In March 1998, when there were 82 vacancies, Senator Leahy said: "Those who delay or prevent the filling of these vacancies must understand that they are delaying or preventing the administration of justice."

* In March of 2000, when there were just 75 vacancies, Senator Daschle said: "There is a dire shortage--we have a judicial emergency right now, throughout the country. And it's important for us to respond to that emergency, confirm the many, many judges whose nominations are still languishing either in committee or on the floor."

* The "Wall Street Journal" said of Leahy's performance: "By any definition, this is an abuse of Senate power." WSJ 10/18/01

* One out of eight judgeships is vacant, awaiting hearings and confirmation of men and women who have been appointed by President Bush.



* The lack of judges on the federal bench is creating a backlog in the federal judicial system. As a result, criminal trials are being postponed daily. As Sen. Leahy himself said in March 1998: "Judges delayed means justice denied. Without judges, courts cannot try cases, sentence the guilty, or resolve civil disputes. Partisan and narrow ideological efforts to impose political litmus tests on judicial nominees and to shut down the judiciary must stop."


Reply 57 - Posted by: unix_geek, 12/5/2001 10:36:03 AM

Reply 58 - Posted by: Conserver, 12/5/2001 10:38:35 AM

The last time I looked the Senate was in the Legislative Branch, which passed bills into law, in addition to confirming administrative cabinet positions. Other than amending current law, what business does the Senate have in advising Judicial proceedings?


Reply 59 - Posted by: Tell Me Why, 12/5/2001 10:41:02 AM

PRESIDENT Bush needs to personaaly embarass and humble this blowhard on NATIONAL TV as one who is threatening our national safety and remind all that his actions earlier led to being thrown off the committee.

Take the gloves off and humble this bas&ard and the dimmies will cave to puiblic opinion. No more Mr. niceguy please PRESIDENT Bush.


Reply 60 - Posted by: mr.maf, 12/5/2001 10:42:48 AM

I will never purchase anything from Vermont, nor will I ever visit there. I shall do everything in my power to influence my family to do the same. If everyone here does the same, senator Depends will be to blame. Leak that Osama bin Leahy.


Reply 61 - Posted by: Helena, 12/5/2001 10:43:19 AM

Too bad there isn't a law against being stupid.


Reply 62 - Posted by: veritas4ever, 12/5/2001 10:44:59 AM

Searching the web for an art supply site so that I could buy a quality studio easel for my daughter, I came across an art store in Vermont. I e-mailed them to let them know that as long as Leahy, Jeffords and Sanders represented their state in Congress, their site would not be considered for this purchase. Enough of those e-mails might wake up some Vermonters who may voice their anger to those 3 dirtbags.


Reply 63 - Posted by: Medieval One, 12/5/2001 10:54:33 AM

As a dedicated News Junkie how did I miss the "leaking" of info by Leahy?? When did this happen? This is a HUGE incident and I'd like more info concerning this.


Reply 64 - Posted by: Shells, 12/5/2001 11:00:15 AM

Just emailed VT chamber of commerce. At this point, that's the only strategy that has any chance of working.

Told 'em New Hampshire is just as pretty and is populated by far fewer leftist nitwits. My tourist dollars will go to NH.


Reply 65 - Posted by: ayatollah, 12/5/2001 11:00:28 AM

Today on C-SPAM they posed the question:What do you think og John Ashcroft? I felt like calling in and asking what do you think of Leahy? that is the more relivant question.
I am beginning to think that C-SPAM is a liberal wing of the deomcraTIC party and they have the worst call in people I hav ever heard.
Every black caller is bitter because of slavery hich ended ovewr 100 years ago and every feminist is bitter because..
fill in the blank.


Reply 66 - Posted by: knub, 12/5/2001 11:09:47 AM

C-Span leans left because the democRATS threatened them that they would retaliate when they took back the congress.


Reply 67 - Posted by: truthbeknown, 12/5/2001 11:23:59 AM

Boycotting ALL vermont products is maybe the only way to hurt leaky and jumping jim. The rather confused residents and voters in this little unimportant state will notice when their pocket books get thin and they understand it is because of their voting in anti American socialist.

Unfortunately it is the econemy sutpid! BOYCOTT all vermont products!!


Reply 68 - Posted by: brutus, 12/5/2001 11:30:25 AM

I believe it was in 1996, that Leahy ran agianst an old farmer, who was dressed in overalls, around 80 ish. They were on c-span on a radio talk show for their debate. THe old fellow was so deferent to Leahy, when asked questions about national security, he said you will have to ask the senator that question. It was a sham. I am sure the questions were prepared by Leahy himself. I saw him on the Today show, with the perky Katie asking him why he wanted to run for the Senate. He simply said that there was too much grid lock in the government and he thought he could make a difference. Does anyone else remember the old gentleman? I was pulling for the old man, even then and I did not know much about Leaky at the time. I too dread the Hearings with Ashcroft. He is such an honorable man and those dims on the committee treat him like dirt. I can't wait to see how Ted K. will treat him this time, since Aschroft was so kind to he and his family, when the Justice Building was named for his brother a few weeks ago. I thought the hearings were tomorrow. ANyone know what time?


Reply 69 - Posted by: had2, 12/5/2001 11:35:19 AM

Bravo Mr. Kelly.

Will we ever know how many attacks were prevented because the people detained were not able to execute their plans?


Reply 70 - Posted by: LEPhunt, 12/5/2001 11:45:41 AM

"LEAHY'S LITTLE SNEER"; so that's what they're calling it now ! Oh well, if ol BJ can have his "Willard", Leahy can have his "Sneer".


Reply 71 - Posted by: Bluestocking, 12/5/2001 11:57:12 AM

Uh-oh: This is not a good day for the Democrats. Just when they were getting their vaudeville act ready for the talkshow circuit ("We're in a Bush recession." "The sky is falling and it's all the Bush Adminstration's fault." etc.) the economy is threatening to do a major turn-around. The Dow is over 10,000; NASDAQ is over 2,000, and several key economic indexes are way up.


Reply 72 - Posted by: Gift O Gab, 12/5/2001 12:14:22 PM

Guess the honeymoon is over. But then the Dems lack of sincerity in supporting Bush in the war effort....yes, it is a war...has always been clear. I think it will backfire on the little brats though as W is actually a leader and they do not know what to do with that.


Reply 73 - Posted by: Christie, 12/5/2001 12:16:02 PM

Hello, Mr Leaheeeeeeee! Where were you when Billy started bombing Serbia without Congress okaying it first!? Oh, that wasn't a war, it was just NATO forces dropping explosives from high altitudes to create peace in a very old conflicted land. The U.S. couldn't stand by and do NOTHING while Impeachment was making such a big stink for your hero!
Darn, I forgot, Hilly made Billy do it!


Reply 74 - Posted by: gingadecorgi, 12/5/2001 12:36:47 PM

Michael Kelly's piece needs to be published daily to remind the stupid that this is a war against the American people. It should be read daily to the kids in school. I bet most of you posters already knew of what Kelly wrote about. It's kind of a duh thing. Leahy is a self-righteous fool who puts his putz ahead of the needs of the country. May he and all of his ilk become un-elected. Let's hope VT wises up on this creature.


Reply 75 - Posted by: Margo-Weston, 12/5/2001 12:53:31 PM

I love that line, "Leahy has his dress over his head." Brings back memories of my childhood. Little girls who don't get attention sometimes, yell, and stamp their feet and when attention does not come their way, pull up the dress, in public, of course, it always works. But this is a grown man. Good Lord, one would think that the President does not have a right to suggest the use of a tribunal for non-citizens who have been identified as terrorists. And if I hear one more news reporter stating that they don't want Americans to be at the mercy of a tribunal, I will pull my dress up over my head too. Get your act together or sit down and shut up, Leahy.


Reply 76 - Posted by: pismire, 12/5/2001 12:54:53 PM

The fact that Leahy received an anthrax letter makes it unlikely the anthrax came from Middle Eastern terrorists. There are many other targets with a higher profile and a voting record that is much tougher on terrorists.


Reply 77 - Posted by: ragu, 12/5/2001 1:04:00 PM

An excellent and truthful article, Mr. Kelly.

It's simple Leahy, President Bush didn't tell you because he knows you can't keep your mouth shut. How do you think you got the nickname "Leaky"?


Reply 78 - Posted by: Margo-Weston, 12/5/2001 1:12:09 PM

An earlier post suggested that we should boycott all Vermont products. Tell us what they are and we'll get started.


Reply 79 - Posted by: weejun, 12/5/2001 1:25:48 PM

My email to Senator "Depends" (again, knowing full well how useless it is to contact these bozos, only to be instantly deleted by the lackies who man their email services):

Regarding your apparent opposition to military tribunals and concern that the President might be stepping on somebody's civil rights, I am angered that you seem to be more interested in the rights of terrorists who intend us harm than you are in my rights as an American to be protected from such people.

The hard facts are military tribunals are necessary because: (1) this is a threat unlike any we have faced in our history; (2) our criminal justice system is not prepared for anything like this; and (3) sadly, because of the legal profession in this country, the US justice system runs a high risk of not being able to mete out proper or speedy justice for these war criminals.

I respectfully request you concentrate your efforts on filling the numerous vacancies in the federal judiciary and leave prosecution of the war to the President as is his constitutional duty.


Reply 80 - Posted by: RunRow, 12/5/2001 1:41:09 PM

Great article Michael. Screw Leahy, this self-centered jerk can kiss our collective a$$es.

Leahy is the poster boy for term limits.


Reply 81 - Posted by: westernskies, 12/5/2001 2:07:02 PM

when other things fail then the use of ways that have collateral damage must be used..so, yes! let us boycott all of Vermont's commodities including tourism...could we call it the Leahy-Jeffords boycott so those not so smart people who vote for the two of them will be sure and get the idea?


Reply 82 - Posted by: Boston Tea Party, 12/5/2001 2:15:20 PM

Vermont products:

Skiing.... Try New Hampshire and NY
Vermont Maple Syrup
Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream
Cabot's Cheese & other dairy products
Harrington Hams and Cheese

Orvis Catalogs

Chamber of Commerce: 1-800-VERMONT


Reply 83 - Posted by: kellysmom, 12/5/2001 2:23:41 PM

If George Washington set the precedent then it's good enough for me.
Leahy is a study in pomposity.


Reply 84 - Posted by: Clipper, 12/5/2001 2:25:14 PM

Leaky Leahy is about sc**wing Pres Bush anyway he can by delaying appointments calling hearings on Tribunals or any dely factor they can dream up.

They are not nice people and do not have the country's well being in mind only THEIRS.


Reply 85 - Posted by: drnic, 12/5/2001 2:37:42 PM


Something tells me that the Democrats believe they have the world by the tail; they are invincible; they can get away with anything.

Something tells me that Leahy is leading the pack with this attitude.

Something tells me that Leahy's behavior is going to come back to bite him in the butt.

Something tells me that elected officials of a certain ilk are about to find out that the Citizenry is not in the mood for politics....not the brand that the Democrats play.


Reply 86 - Posted by: Orion, 12/5/2001 2:57:15 PM

Remember when the libs howled with glee whenever Gingrich & Lott complained that Bubba wasn't consulting Congress or making end runs around the law with executive orders?

Payback's a Bin Laden.


Reply 87 - Posted by: mama meatballs, 12/5/2001 3:19:23 PM

There's something very sleazy about Leahy.
He gives me the creeps.


Reply 88 - Posted by: Margo-Weston, 12/5/2001 3:21:51 PM

Yeah, Orien, but Bubby was dangerous.


Reply 89 - Posted by: utex1, 12/5/2001 3:45:56 PM

I went to www.vermontliving.com and went to the bottom of the page. There is an email address:
info@vtliving.com

This goes to the magazine (Vermont Living) for the VT Chambers of Commerce and the VT Travel Association. It is for people to write to asking for information on business and travel advice in Vermont. The folks who open these emails are geared to service and will probably cringe and have nightmares about what I told them. I said that there was a growing, nation-wide movement to avoid Vermont and all its products because there is wide-spread belief that Leahy is anti-Bush and pro-Taliban, especially since he was kicked off of the Intelligence Committee for releasing classified information and causing the deaths of Americans.

Maybe if they get enough of these, questions will be asked in Vermaont.


Reply 90 - Posted by: GranTom, 12/5/2001 3:46:46 PM

Never buy from Vermont becausse of:
Leaky LaFooey, Turncoat Jeffarts and Socialist Slanders

Never buy from California because of:
Boxer, Feinstein, GrayDavis, Kondidit, and Streisand
Mass: Sen. Sot (U know who)


Reply 91 - Posted by: treecat, 12/5/2001 3:52:38 PM

Our young son suggested we order the free vermont tourist book, then e-mail all of those who advertise that we will not be visting their B&B or shopping etc.. Vermont website.

That might be more a more effective attention getter than anything else.


Reply 92 - Posted by: ally, 12/5/2001 3:58:18 PM

When I think of Vermont, I think of the wonderful fall colors....they only change once a year. However, Vermont politicians change with the prevailing winds, mostly liberal. It is beyond me that so many would continue to perpetrate these people in office when it is plain to see they do not do it for the people, but for their own pompous, ego, fulfillment schemes.


Reply 93 - Posted by: westernskies, 12/5/2001 4:02:07 PM

I wish someone who has a way with words would write us an informative boycott notice or slogan that I could email my friends.(please keep it clean)


Reply 94 - Posted by: Jayhawker, 12/5/2001 5:44:15 PM

Post #17 has it exactly right. I've been trying to make this case for the past several years. Americans need to hit States like Vermont in the pocketbook, and make it hurt. There is no excuse for the Senators or Congresscritters of small states to threaten the integrity of the nation's security.

The boycott is the most powerful weapon we have against the tyranny of malevolent 'RATs like Senator Depends and the State he represents. Afterall, if he didn't represent their views, they wouldn't vote for him, would they? So let's hurt them bad by boycotting their products and services.

The Jayhawker


Reply 95 - Posted by: Al Ghephart, 12/5/2001 5:51:19 PM

Leahy isn't interested in anyones civil liberties. He is only interested in getting his name on the news. He is a driveling piece of Wildebeast dung.


Reply 96 - Posted by: greyhoundpals, 12/5/2001 5:51:42 PM

Today's oxymoron: Patriotic Democrats


Reply 97 - Posted by: nancyb, 12/5/2001 5:59:19 PM

Recll Dickens' Pecksniff?

This is Pecksniffery.


Reply 98 - Posted by: tofu, 12/5/2001 6:10:50 PM

Another Vermont business to boycott:

The catalog called "The Vermont Country Store". I ordered alot from them in the past.

No more.


Reply 99 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/5/2001 6:38:24 PM

Leahy may not be so innocent in deliberately keeping the judical short of judges.
No judges = no guilty sentences for the terrorist cell members and MEGA BUCKS IN THE LEAHY CAMPAIGN COFFERS.
The mere idea of military style tribunals took him by surprize and now his Mega Bucks are in danger of sliding away.
A claim of anthrax sent to one's self can't be proven easily.


Reply 100 - Posted by: snix86, 12/5/2001 7:03:13 PM

As a Vermonter I can tell you that many of us are sick of the elected officials in our state as well. I have to agree that a boycott of products may well be the only way to get the ear of the liberals that have taken over this state.
I would hesitate to lump all Vermonters together though. Please don't think that we are all "Greenies" or whatever term you have for left wing liberals. We are not. I am a conservative. After the mixed success of the "Take Back Vermont" and "Remember in November" campaign of the last election cycle, I am not optimistic for the future of politics in our tiny state.
Other products from Vermont include
Burton Snowboards and IBM (they have a microchip production facility in Northern VT) as well as Eveready batteries. I worry about the idea of boycotting though because this seems an ineffective way of reaching the citizenry you hope to convince. Unfortunatly I don't have any good suggestions. Skiing (in particular) and tourism (in general) would have the most impact on the state (in my humble opinion).

PS - The old farmer is Fred Tuttle. It was a joke. There was a movie made before the election called "Man with a Plan", it just got way out of hand. Someone decided he should actually go on the ballot... If I remeber correctly (it's a bit fuzzy) I think he conceeded the race halfway through the night but he was winning (just goes to show you...) He's become a legend in the state. We have a bumper sticker around here that says "Spread Fred" how's that for a slogan!


Reply 101 - Posted by: jamnjelly, 12/5/2001 7:25:10 PM

I also think it's time for Bush to go public with lack of judicial appointments by Leahy, and approach it from the national security angle..
he has the good will of the people and needs to use it now..
the dems are desparate for a way to destroy him


Reply 102 - Posted by: Avikingman, 12/5/2001 8:33:00 PM

Hey, here in NH we delivered 2 electorals to Mr. Bush! But we're barely hanging on, libbos like no tax NH.

I feel for my conservative brother in VT, but the fact is the libbos leak over the borders from NY and MA to avoid taxes, then vote Dumbocrat.
I would hazard a guess that most of VT are NY liberals who stayed after skiing.

But I agree, ski NH, hit 'em where it hurts and spread it around.


Reply 103 - Posted by: Margo-Weston, 12/5/2001 10:35:41 PM

Good to hear from you conservative people from Vermont. It must be beautiful country My all-time favorite song is Moonlight in Vermont. Here is the question. What politician could the Republicans run in Vermont who could cause a sensation and get their vote? Anyone? What kind of bacon does Leahy bring home that keeps him in office?


Reply 104 - Posted by: frank merenda, 12/5/2001 11:10:09 PM

I wish you people on this link would really tell us what you think.
HA HA just kidding, keep it up guys.


Reply 105 - Posted by: ikonoklast, 12/6/2001 12:39:44 AM

Why stop at boycotting? Why not write to your CongressCritter and demand that they vote to withhold any and all federal dollars earmarked for projects in Vermont, as long as the Three Stooges are voted into Congess. Think how much THAT will hurt!

Of course, every boob in Congress would HTE that to happen in his state, so it probably won't fly.

I used to ski Vermont, but I found the people up there unusually rude. I fell down suddenly at the entrance to a lift line and had trouble righting myself. An old Vermonter skied up and screeched at me for blocking his way (there were other entrances to the line, but I was where the line was shortest). He didn't help or offer to help, just whined that I was in his way.

On another trip, I was putting my skis into a tote preparatory to leaving when a 10-year-old Vermont lad stepped between my skis and began a shouted conversation with his family. I couldn't finnish packing and was fed up with VTers, so I told his if he wanted to keep that foot, he ought to move it. He stared at me in shock and I shouted "move" and he did.


Reply 106 - Posted by: Dimpled Darling, 12/6/2001 12:46:40 AM

Hey, you vengeful guys, stop and think. Boycotting VT, CA, etc. might gettcha' in the end. If they go under, guess whose tax dollars will BAIL THEM OUT! It won't be Leaky's if you get my drift.


Reply 107 - Posted by: bilh52, 12/6/2001 1:13:04 AM

"We are not talking about rounding up the usual suspects. We are talking about rounding up soldiers of an enemy army before they have a chance to STRIKE AGAIN ON THEIR CHOSEN BATTLEFIELD -- HERE IN AMERICA, against us all. To ignore this context is to make no argument at all."

With that phrase, capitalized by me for emphasis, Kelly nails it.


Reply 108 - Posted by: LIBERALMEDIALIE, 12/6/2001 4:35:09 AM

L.DOTTERS EMAIL SENATOR DEPENDS AT

senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov

SEND AN EMAIL EVERY DAY AND LET HIM KNOW
WHAT YOU THINK OF HIS OUTRAGOUS BEHAVIOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL DO ANY GOOD BUT IT
SURE WILL GIVE SOME OF THOSE FLUNKYS WORKING
FOR HIM SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.