Jailed Iraqi children run free as marines roll into Baghdad suburbs
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BAGHDAD (AFP) - More than 100 children held in a prison celebrated their freedom as US marines rolled into northeast Baghdad amid chaotic scenes which saw civilians loot weapons from an army compound, a US officer said.
Around 150 children spilled out of the jail after the gates were opened as a US military Humvee vehicle approached, Lieutenant Colonel Fred Padilla told an AFP correspondent travelling with the Marines 5th Regiment.
"Hundreds of kids were swarming us and kissing us," Padilla said.
"There were parents running up, so happy to have their kids back."
"The children had been imprisoned because they had not joined the youth branch of the Baath party," he alleged. "Some of these kids had been in there for five years."
The children, who were wearing threadbare clothes and looked under-nourished, walked on the streets crossing their hands as if to mimic handcuffs, before giving the thumbs up sign and shouting their thanks.
It was not clear who had opened the doors of the prison.
Civilians also took advantage of the collapse of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s authority to grab weapons from an army base, said Group Sergeant Jeff Treiber.
As marines were alerted by radio that civilians had seized weapons, Treiber warned that anyone seen to be armed could be a target of US-British coalition forces.
"With the weapons they are becoming combatants," said Treiber. "If they don't take the weapons they will be fine."
Other residents stole air conditioning units, television sets and furniture from government buildings in an echo of the looting that was seen in the southern city of Basra.
A 19-year-old called Haider said people had been ransacking government compounds since the morning to steal weapons and furniture.
"Since the morning, nine o'clock, they have been looting. They are stealing weapons and I took three doors," he said.
At one stage the marines opened fire after coming under attack from snipers, leaving at least two civilians wounded.
One man needed treatment for gunshot wounds to his stomach and left arm.
But his friend, Abdul Amir Jaffa, said he did not resent the Americans despite the shooting.
"Americans are coming to free us," he told AFP.
The marines became increasingly edgy as crowds of people took to the streets to observe their progress.
"It's a problem with so many people in the area. Its hard to tell if there are enemy forces among them. You have to be careful returning fire with civilians all over the place," Lieutenant Anthony Sousa said.
Troops from the Marines' 1st Expeditionary Force also entered Baghdad on the east of the city Tuesday as thousands of armoured vehicles and Humvees poured into the capital for a showdown with Saddam Hussein's troops.
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BAGHDAD (AFP) - More than 100 children held in a prison celebrated their freedom as US marines rolled into northeast Baghdad amid chaotic scenes which saw civilians loot weapons from an army compound, a US officer said.
Comments:
Reply 1 - Posted by: shamus, 4/8/2003 1:12:46 PM
Jailed children seem to violate even French sensibilities.
Reply 2 - Posted by: FlyRight, 4/8/2003 1:13:34 PM
Jailed children?! Jailed children?! Dear Lord...
Reply 3 - Posted by: LoveGW, 4/8/2003 1:16:12 PM
Jailed tortured and raped children. C'mon oh you war protesters, protest their freedom.
Reply 4 - Posted by: mike3746, 4/8/2003 1:17:32 PM
Quik! Call Susan Serandon!
Reply 5 - Posted by: Double Dog Dare, 4/8/2003 1:18:04 PM
The children part reminds me of the movie "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom."
Reply 6 - Posted by: JustGreg, 4/8/2003 1:18:18 PM
But we are not, of course, justified in fighting Saddam, said the starlet.
As far as I am concerned, THIS justifies the war.
Reply 7 - Posted by: thefield, 4/8/2003 1:22:24 PM
I am happy that this evil is over with. This story is the eye wetter of the day. I am glad that I don't have to go near a protester, with this story I could become very violent.
Reply 8 - Posted by: Boston Longstreet, 4/8/2003 1:22:37 PM
My God-this says it all. I guarantee you that no prominent celeb or protester will even try to deal with this unbelievable situation.
Reply 9 - Posted by: pallis, 4/8/2003 1:23:09 PM
Blix and company were told that the children's prison was a daycare center. The UN will meet to discuss the issue.
Reply 10 - Posted by: wnaegele, 4/8/2003 1:24:39 PM
This story should headline in every Western media outlet...but I bet it won't....
Reply 11 - Posted by: Mother of AL, 4/8/2003 1:26:21 PM
Also please note the people are taking weapons. Too bad these folks don't have a Second Ammendment. But then, they don't even have a constitution.
Reply 12 - Posted by: tofu, 4/8/2003 1:28:44 PM
Please play the speeches by the Dems against the war. Barbara Boxer spoke so disrespectfully to Colin Powell. She told him at a hearing that his policy was "designed neglect" or something like that.
Reply 13 - Posted by: shipwreck_65, 4/8/2003 1:30:11 PM
Shame on YOU Michael Moore.....you fat pig.
Reply 14 - Posted by: shilohsharps, 4/8/2003 1:31:05 PM
Tim Robbins (who wears a t-shirt that reads WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB?)! Susan Sarandon! Barbara Streisand! Sean Penn! Alec Baldwin! Dixie Freaks! Johnny Apple! John Conyers! Dipstick Daschle! Maya Angelou!
Thank God we didn't listen to any of you feckless morons.
Thank God we went to the mat and liberated CHILDREN...
You hideous gasbags. Go away and never open your mouths again....
Reply 15 - Posted by: GOPJihad, 4/8/2003 1:31:41 PM
"The children had been imprisoned because they had not joined the youth branch of the Baath party," he alleged. "Some of these kids had been in there for five years."
>> Don't forget, it's the "Baath Socialist Party". I'm sure there are a bunch of kids in Cuba suffering the same fate.
This is what the Left has been trying to protect.
Reply 16 - Posted by: Cato_the_elder, 4/8/2003 1:33:06 PM
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Oh, those awful coalition soldiers!
Reply 17 - Posted by: Coral Pink, 4/8/2003 1:35:39 PM
And this is the kind of institution Saddam's defenders wanted to preserve. I am aghast.
Reply 18 - Posted by: Vivi, 4/8/2003 1:36:59 PM
Someone ask Michael Moore if these children have been fictionally jailed or if their suffering a reality. He should make a documentary about these children, although it might not win an Oscar.
Someone ask Janine Garofolwhatever if this is the American hegemony she sputtered all over cable about.
Someone ask the Chick in the middle what the mothers of these children might think about George W. Bush.
Reply 19 - Posted by: Student Of The E..I....B, 4/8/2003 1:38:07 PM
Thank you for those pictures! They brought tears to my eyes.
Stacy
Reply 20 - Posted by: laratta, 4/8/2003 1:40:59 PM
It starts when they take away your right to bare arms. And that is the policy the dems are fighting for in a surgical way.Piece by piece. This weekend I'm going to buy a gun.
Reply 21 - Posted by: thelmalou, 4/8/2003 1:42:50 PM
Oh, dear Lord. I have no words. And all because they wouldn't join his youth party. Hell will ever welcome this evil man.
Reply 22 - Posted by: Boston Longstreet, 4/8/2003 1:43:52 PM
The more I think about this, the more I think that the President, Mr. Blair, Ari and everyone else who matters should be running out to the podiums right now and screaming about this story.
Reply 23 - Posted by: shilohsharps, 4/8/2003 1:46:35 PM
A grinning Ghurka.
Wow.
Thank you Cato.
Reply 24 - Posted by: xdemorat, 4/8/2003 1:47:16 PM
Call Jamean GodAwfulHo and let her know!
Reply 25 - Posted by: carp, 4/8/2003 1:47:20 PM
Like Chris Hitchens has been telling the Left, we're going to find prisons, weapons of mass destruction, torture chambers, mass graves, etc.
Reply 26 - Posted by: Clark Petrie, 4/8/2003 1:49:03 PM
Forgive me but I just had a contrary thought: What if those "children" were like some of the "children" over here, the ones who murder their whole family at fifteen? The ones who have a police record a mile long at ten? I'm sure they'd never lie by telling our guys that they were imprisoned merely for not joining the Ba'ath Youth Party or the Hitler Youth or whatever. These aren't seventeen-year-old "children" with mustaches and full beards are they?
Reply 27 - Posted by: yoniyodeler, 4/8/2003 1:49:39 PM
Patty Murray: reality check. Saddam's idea of day care.
Reply 28 - Posted by: Don Marquis, 4/8/2003 1:50:11 PM
Perhaps, this is where sodomy huessein got some videos of the defrocked inspector, ridder.
Reply 29 - Posted by: Ceci, 4/8/2003 1:51:47 PM
Too bad smirky, skanky, Stalinist Susie and her partner Timmy weren't there to flash their lovely "Heil Saddam" peace signs for the kids.
Hollyweirdos are the scum of the earth.
Reply 30 - Posted by: greyhoundpals, 4/8/2003 1:52:34 PM
This type of story has to be broadcast far and wide, but it may be downplayed by the media in deference to the Hollyweird left etc. who vested their "moral" capital in Saddam.
So far, this has been played down. How many people know poison gasses GIs found in the Euphrates?
Likewise, any evidence of WMDs need to be a really big deal in the news, because it will utterly vindicate GWB and kick the props out from under losers like Blix, the appeasers, protesters, left liberal Democrats etc. These dirtbags have NO moral standing, yet the media will continue to give them a respectful hearing. Maybe the embedded reporters will send out the evidence in a vivid way.
Reply 31 - Posted by: Walker, 4/8/2003 1:53:48 PM
Clark, Please call Hillery and tell her we did it for the children.
Reply 32 - Posted by: basnik, 4/8/2003 1:54:25 PM
"Not in their name"........
Reply 33 - Posted by: teegore, 4/8/2003 1:55:25 PM
I had heard about these prison for children last year, when the notion was dismissed by the liberal press.
Reply 34 - Posted by: trotter, 4/8/2003 1:56:13 PM
There is a larger thought here, as well. Think of all of the times those "special" world organizations and US poverty pimps hold summits to discuss how horrible it is that America: tries murderous teenagers as adults; don't let minors have abortions without parental consent; have fat kids; etc., etc., etc.
Yet, when have any of these socialist maggots cared one iota about all of the kids living under totalitarian rule who are in this same predicament or, worse, just disappear from the face of the Earth?
My apologies for getting angry, but this infuriates me. Please, dear Lord, don't let me get next to a liberal right now!
Reply 35 - Posted by: TalkRadio, 4/8/2003 1:59:50 PM
The Minister of Information says this is all lies. The children are still in jail.
Reply 36 - Posted by: Clark Petrie, 4/8/2003 2:03:40 PM
Not sure how to take your post, #31, but I just thought I'd throw that in for consideration. Don't try to label me a Democrat just because I brought up a reasonable alternative explanation. You know as well as I do that we have not hundreds but thousands of kids in prison right here in our own country who deserve every minute of their jail time - if not worse. Why would it be unreasonable to think Iraq may have a legitimate reason for having a few of these young demon-spawn miscreants in the hoosegow, too? What would you expect them to do with their juvenile murderers, thieves and drug dealers, buy 'em candy?
Reply 37 - Posted by: Standing Wolf, 4/8/2003 2:03:53 PM
Islamic honor.
Reply 38 - Posted by: Ceci, 4/8/2003 2:07:07 PM
Re: #36 - I don't think young street thugs go to jail in Iraq; they become the leading lights of the Ba'ath Party and the Fedayeen Saddam. Saddam himself started out as a young tough and enforcer for the Ba'ath mafia.
Reply 39 - Posted by: mrs tonto, 4/8/2003 2:07:08 PM
after I read the story I clicked onto the Yahoo message board and read the subject lines: many/most of these ''yahoos'' don't seem to believe yet. calling it lies and propaganda, asking how many children died of sanctions, and saying we should ''free jailed kids in the U.S.''
So, the kool-ade drinkers still don't believe, I think you could send them to Baghdad to view the torture cells and interview the people and they still would not get it. There are none so blind as those who will not see. It's not anti-war it's anti Bush and anti-America. without a doubt.
Reply 40 - Posted by: wtm, 4/8/2003 2:09:51 PM
This is real surprising from the FRENCH press ????
Maybe they're finally coming over our way....but do we want them ???
Reply 41 - Posted by: jmurr, 4/8/2003 2:15:46 PM
Great point #20. We should all buy guns. Really. And if it bugs the liberals/commies, even better. Because they are the ones we will be fighting.
Reply 42 - Posted by: grownup, 4/8/2003 2:16:59 PM
Thank you Lord. Bless these troops and all these poor Iraqi's.
Reply 43 - Posted by: Coral Pink, 4/8/2003 2:17:42 PM
So what does the neckless wonder from the Dixie Chicks have to say about this? She certainly likes to open her big mouth. Why isn't it open?
Reply 44 - Posted by: Cato_the_elder, 4/8/2003 2:23:40 PM
Reply 45 - Posted by: Cato_the_elder, 4/8/2003 2:29:57 PM
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NOT IN YOUR NAME.
Reply 46 - Posted by: Yonkers56, 4/8/2003 2:32:14 PM
the tip of a grotesque iceberg...
Reply 47 - Posted by: usmcsarge, 4/8/2003 2:32:35 PM
More war crimes perpetrated by the Imperialist, neo Colonialist, facist coalition forces! Actually, this is more fuel for the panic mode in Pelosi-land.
This jail must be Saddam's version of, "It's for the children!"
Every day there will be more of this. Each event will be another nail in the coffin of the dar left Dems.
Old Marine Sarge
Reply 48 - Posted by: pub_crawler, 4/8/2003 2:34:03 PM
Fact is, if the anti-war crowd got their way, these kids would still be in prison; probably for a long time.
Reply 49 - Posted by: Forehand, 4/8/2003 2:36:14 PM
I totally agree, #20. We must never forget how wide the rift is between us and the left. Not even 9-11 bridged it, friends. All it would take is an unholy leader (worse than BJ and PIAPS) and a leftist Congress to bring us to a similar fate. Don't think for a minute they wouldn't jail you and your children for not bowing your knee to them. Defend, defend, defend our Constitution. And after this is over, we need to do whatever we can to get the good judges nominated by W on the job. Judges who will not legislate from the bench.
Reply 50 - Posted by: newsj, 4/8/2003 2:40:08 PM
#36, you have got to be kidding.
Putting kids in jail for up to five years, keeping them in rags and not feeding them?
You think this could be justified in any way?
IMHO, you need to have your meds adjusted.
Reply 51 - Posted by: Aussiegirl, 4/8/2003 2:44:37 PM
As horrifying and unbelievable as this is -- it shouldn't surprise us --- Stalin is Saddam's hero --- I have read numerous personal accounts of life in the Soviet gulags and Siberian labor camps that include dreadful stories of women and even very small children suffering the same -- and even worse --- fates.
Reply 52 - Posted by: Strike3, 4/8/2003 2:44:53 PM
It's amazing how closely Saddam imitated Hitler. I keep asking myself why we waited so long.
Reply 53 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel, 4/8/2003 2:45:14 PM
New book title for Her Heinee Hillary, *It takes the Army, Navy, Airforce, and Marines to free a village*
Reply 54 - Posted by: aqualad, 4/8/2003 2:46:18 PM
I'm sitting here in my cube crying my eyes out. Got to keep from blubbering so everybody in the office won't know. I wish, I wish, I wish I could be there. When it comes down to it, these Hollywood liberals are just fascists, themselves. There is excuse for their attitude. I still believe everyone will have an opportunity to repent and believe in Jesus Christ and change their lives. I hope that these Hollywooders begin to use their influence for good instead of evil.
Reply 55 - Posted by: wookie, 4/8/2003 2:46:32 PM
Even burning in Hell is too good for Saddam and his followers.
Reply 56 - Posted by: shamus, 4/8/2003 2:46:34 PM
The contention that this represents Iraqi juvenile justice at its finest is obtuse flatulence.
Reply 57 - Posted by: Jonahfan, 4/8/2003 3:00:46 PM
I cannot accept that this is true. What would be the point? It seems too much like a propaganda setup. Maybe the Iraqis are being TOO helpful in their joy.
Reply 58 - Posted by: LoveGW, 4/8/2003 3:04:49 PM
#36 only a liberal would try to explain the unexplainable to fit an agenda. Take your "explanations" to Saddam. I'm sure he'd agree. Sheesh.
Reply 59 - Posted by: gchaz, 4/8/2003 3:06:02 PM
#53, beautiful, absolutely beautiful statement. Piaps spews garbage. Our troops are wonderful.
Reply 60 - Posted by: Kent G. Orlando, 4/8/2003 3:06:20 PM
As some of you already know, I'm a big, big believer in regularly scanning the hardcore leftist/lib message boards, in order to keep up with the DNC lies and talking points of the day.
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When confronted by image after electronic image of coalition soldiers being jubilantly greeted by grinning Iraqi kids, all making the big "thumb's up" sign: leftists and libs came up with the following"explanations" as to why and how said images didn't really contradict their heated (and repeated) assertions that "... welllllllll... the Iraqis don't really want us over there, anyway":
*** That the "thumb's up" gesture, in Iraqi culture, really means (in effect) "eff you"; and that the kids were actually covertly cursing the soldiers. (Look back at those photos Cato has posted, in this very thread. They're even hugging> their rescuers, for pity's sake...!)
*** That all of said images weren't "real" ones... but were, instead, either CGI computer manipulations, or else I kid you not) cunningly staged and directed COINTELPRO propaganda mini-plays [!!].
#36 -- your repeated contention that these unspeakable Iraqi youth prisons under discussion are just some odd, Middle Eastern variant of "Boy's Town" are, IMHO, as one with these.
Reply 61 - Posted by: boscon, 4/8/2003 3:07:04 PM
Political prisoners in Iraq, an utopian dictatorship? I can't believe such right-wing propaganda.
Reply 62 - Posted by: MSTS, 4/8/2003 3:07:32 PM
All I want is simple and easy. I am not vindictive, it does no real good.
I just want them to say, "Sorry, I was wrong".
Until the left can look at their mistakes and say it, we will have to continue to fight them.
Reply 63 - Posted by: Lady Z, 4/8/2003 3:18:24 PM
My God -- children in jail???? This is ridiculous.......
Oh Susan Sarandon -- you Baghdad "B" -- what do you have to say about this??????
You puhtzzzzzzzzz........
Reply 64 - Posted by: Madinmaryland, 4/8/2003 3:18:58 PM
#62, don't hold your breath. Better to ignore those morons. They are in the process of hanging themselves.
Reply 65 - Posted by: nupi235, 4/8/2003 3:20:24 PM
#36-- the simple fact is this: If the Iraqi regime found any of those "Predatory" kids, they would not have been in prison, they would have been killed, or used as human tests (ie all of the graves that the British uncovered...)
From the reports here, they were held because of their political views (or probably as leverage over their family). And THAT is a violation of international law that even teh French cannot ignore.
Reply 66 - Posted by: ldroshine, 4/8/2003 3:27:37 PM
Why isn't this being reported on CNN? I don't get FOX on my cable. Have only one cable provider in this tiny town.
Reply 67 - Posted by: Allegra, 4/8/2003 3:28:04 PM
And yet, the screwed up James Carroll declares that we must be ashamed of our flag and our country because of what we are doing.
Praise God for the release of these children.
Democrats should love this, shouldn't they? They LOVE 'childrrrunnn'.
God Bless and Protect our president.
Reply 68 - Posted by: Pleiades, 4/8/2003 3:29:43 PM
Don't be naive #36. You mean some of these childrin might be 'murderers' like their leader Saddam Hussein? The reality is more along the lines of these children being 'drafted' into Saddam's military - not thrown in jail.
Considering the place and its totalitarian regime, it's a sure bet it was a political act to keep parents in line, or some other self-serving gambit of Sodom H., It would be more apt, therefore, to say they would be awarded the Medal of Valour... not imprisoned..
Know the enemy is a truism worth remembering if for no other reason than to save one from ignorance...
Reply 69 - Posted by: aqualad, 4/8/2003 3:32:22 PM
Let's see...if I were Hussein or Hitler or Stalin or Castro or Mugabe, I would take the biggest juvenile delinquints and make them soldiers in my army, not put them in jail. That would be wasting a precious natural resource. They would need an official outlet for their aggression, lest they become a thorn in my side. But the ones who refuse to do my bidding, then are real headaches. They must be controlled. Plus their parents will be much more compliant with the children under my thumb.
Reply 70 - Posted by: SFGOP, 4/8/2003 3:39:04 PM
I don't care about the children. I care about puking in the streets and protesting our horrible military and our horrible president.
SARCASM OFF! If you are a moronic liberal and this story doesn't change your mind then it has been proven...LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER AND YOU FOLKS ARE F-IN RETARDED!
Reply 71 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 4/8/2003 3:46:02 PM
In Iraq you go to jail if you're NOT a young thug.
Reply 72 - Posted by: Allegra, 4/8/2003 3:47:01 PM
Folks I may be wrong but I think #36 was simply trying to tell you what to expect in liberal spin.
I am half curious to see what they're saying over at DU, but then it's predictable. "fake pictures, etc, etc..." why waste my energy.
That said...I am waiting to see Ms. Garofalo bringing the president flowers. I am waiting for Susan Sarandon to go to Iraq and make sandwiches for these kids.
And I am waiting to saw SHAME ON YOU, MICHAEL MOORE!
Reply 73 - Posted by: sanspeur, 4/8/2003 3:58:36 PM
Cato . your pictures are wonderful ., poetry actually .. Plz keep it up .. any thought these kids are hostages for their parents Dr P Arnot said they found books with pictures of republican guard's families .. so they would stay 'in line ' or else.. and some of the families had been sent to baghdad as hostages so the army fights.. hell is tooo good ....mythology better , saddam on the rock with the eagle eating his liver..
Reply 74 - Posted by: bukeye1, 4/8/2003 4:23:19 PM
Now, if these children were jailed for being members of the Gay-Strait Alliance, then and only then, woould the left be outraged.
Reply 75 - Posted by: Ida lil, 4/8/2003 4:28:41 PM
it's more likely that the children were hostages to make theor parents toe the political line.
#36 ---- Since parents were hurrying to claim their children they couldn't have been murdered by them --could they.
Reply 76 - Posted by: fed up, 4/8/2003 4:29:24 PM
"It's all about oil."
Reply 77 - Posted by: shilohsharps, 4/8/2003 4:29:24 PM
#54 - I hear you, pal.
Reply 78 - Posted by: teegore, 4/8/2003 4:29:29 PM
So many parallels to Hitler. Saddam had his version of the Nazi brown shirts, and when a child refused to join, off to jail they went to straighten out their thinking. I have heard the jail was for other reasons too, none of which had anything to do with real crimes or delinquency of any sort we could relate to. In other words, if Saddam's thugs wanted to force the parents to do something, a child might be put in this jail to persuade the parents to act in full accord with directives, whether that be an actor in a public demonstration, or for purposes of extortion, or other political pressures. It would be an effective vise squeeze on parents minds and hearts.
Time will reveal many more terrible details, we can be sure. But, don't look for a mass repentance from leftists, they will only excuse their own behavior, then move on with lighting speed to the next trumped-up issue to rag on.
Reply 79 - Posted by: Allegra, 4/8/2003 4:35:25 PM
So many parallels to Hitler.
Kind of makes me think of what my protestant friends say about the second coming...that the Anti-Christ will die of a head wound (Hitler) and then rise again...
Hmmmm....
Reply 80 - Posted by: wookie, 4/8/2003 4:43:56 PM
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You have to be this tall to go on the Saddam Jail Ride.
Reply 81 - Posted by: Averse2Media, 4/8/2003 4:45:00 PM
Jailed children=Smoking gun, and if AFP is reporting this, it must be undeniable.
#7 I'm thinking maybe you should go near some protesters. Maybe all of us should go near some protesters when this is all over.
The fact that their hatred for President Bush is greater than their outrage at Saddam tells me one of three things:
They're EVIL...OR...INCREDIBLY IGNORANT...OR...BOTH.
My money's on the third choice.
Reply 82 - Posted by: teegore, 4/8/2003 4:49:03 PM
#79, But, the anti Christ will be someone with great appeal, unlike Saddam. He will come in peacefully, and by peace, he will destroy many. Hitler was a kind of anti Christ, and Saddam certainly is just as evil, but the real one will be so cunning and mesmerizing, that if it were possible, he will fool even the chosen of God with his seeming wisdom and abilities. He will even, initially, appear to solve the tensions between Israel and her opponents.
I hope that we vaporized Saddam and his rotten sons.
Reply 83 - Posted by: Vivi, 4/8/2003 4:55:11 PM
#60 I peeked in on a lefty message board too. They're working up a lather convincing themselves that this story is just propaganda. I feel sorry for them that they're so far gone they can't even feel a little joy for these kids.
Reply 84 - Posted by: nycserenade, 4/8/2003 4:57:31 PM
I'd like to point out that the majority of these children look to me to be 5, 6, or 7 years old! Family-killing thugs?? Preposterous!
Reply 85 - Posted by: Gary O, 4/8/2003 5:00:56 PM
I hope the phony humanitarians (Martin Sheen comes to mind) will study these pictures and study them hard. American imperialism at work.
Reply 86 - Posted by: allegra, 4/8/2003 5:06:58 PM
Drudge is not running the story - he's awfully slow on the uptake lately. I use him less and less.
Reply 87 - Posted by: Mo Gumbo, 4/8/2003 5:07:07 PM
Jailed Iraqi children run free as marines roll into Baghdad suburbs.
Aljazeera says, "so?"
Reply 88 - Posted by: JoeBillBob, 4/8/2003 5:17:04 PM
If we accomplish nothing else in this war THIS makes it worth it. Those soldiers who bravely gave their lives did so for THIS reason.
Reply 89 - Posted by: MHR, 4/8/2003 5:21:44 PM
#54, I too am with you on this, and my first instinct is to go and help them. Thank God for our troops that are there now to keep them safe, feed them and give them safe shelter. All the things we take for granted.
Thanks Cato, the pics really bring it home.
Reply 90 - Posted by: ralph corvair, 4/8/2003 5:24:14 PM
#13, you said it. SHAME on YOU, Michael Moore. concise, and it says it all.
Reply 91 - Posted by: allegra, 4/8/2003 5:25:41 PM
But still...nothing on the televisions???? No reports of this? Figures.
Reply 92 - Posted by: allegra, 4/8/2003 5:31:16 PM
In a September interview with Time magazine, here's what Scott Ritter had to say about Iraq's children's prisons:
The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children--toddlers up to pre-adolescents--whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace.
Putz Ritter.
Reply 93 - Posted by: Tiggy76, 4/8/2003 5:31:42 PM
#86, I agree, Drudge sure ain't what he used to be! Thanks for the wonderful pictures, Cato....
Reply 94 - Posted by: LoneStarDaughter, 4/8/2003 5:50:48 PM
Who's to say that rescuing these children from Saddam's prison won't be the major event that turns the tide in the Muslim world from hate to ...... maybe not love, but ...... at least they'll stop trying to kill all of us.
Who's to say that one of these young children won't grow up to preach to the Muslim world about his freedom at the hands of America and who's to say that that young person won't be the person that turns the tide?
Something has got to make these people wanting to stop killing us.
The poisoners get them young and fill their heads full of hate. They never really know anything any different.
Reply 95 - Posted by: Killsalot, 4/8/2003 5:57:13 PM
It's on Drudge now.
Reply 96 - Posted by: Drill_Thrawl, 4/8/2003 5:58:50 PM
#60 You said (typed)
"...but the real one will be so cunning and mesmerizing, that if it were possible, he will fool even the chosen of God with his seeming wisdom and abilities. He will even, initially, appear to solve the tensions between Israel and her opponents. "
Err, umm, sounds kinda like Dubya. Eeek!
Reply 97 - Posted by: Cat Fancier, 4/8/2003 6:04:47 PM
Say, wookie! Go check out NRO's Corner. Your wit has come to the approving attention of Number One Son Jonah.
Cordially...
Reply 98 - Posted by: Jonahfan, 4/8/2003 6:05:50 PM
Scott Ritter in Time Magazine re Children's Prisons
You may want to post this on some of your favorite lefty web sites, after all Ritter is one of them who hoped to continue this horror.
Thanks Allegra, I still can't believe this, but it seems to be true.
Reply 99 - Posted by: Boston Longstreet, 4/8/2003 6:10:32 PM
#86 and # 93 are absolutely right about Drudge! He's resting on his laurels. There is no sense checking him out anymore. Nothing posted there is ever fresh-just untimely articles we've all seen elsewhere. Plus all that Hollywood entertainment crap.
Reply 100 - Posted by: ForNow, 4/8/2003 6:17:06 PM
HERE is something positive that can be done by psychologists & psychiatrists who want to do something constructive in this selfish, just for oil war.
GO TO IRAQ & HELP THESE NUMEROUS CHILDREN, SOME OF WHOM HAVE BEEN JAILED FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS, CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN IN CHAINS! THEY WILL SUFFER LIFELONG PSYCHOLOGICAL & BEHAVIORAL CONSEQUENCES WHICH CRY OUT FOR THERAPEUTIC HELP TO MINIMIZE NOW!
Reply 101 - Posted by: UncleArn, 4/8/2003 6:26:10 PM
I agree with many of you LDotters who say that these children were not the miscretins that some other poster have intimated.
Most of the potential criminals are now the Fedayin Saddam and Saddams, young lions. These kids are the ones who would love to kill just ofr the fun of it and as the war goes you can see this in the resistance being put up by the small factions throughout Baghdad.
The kids in jail to me were innocence who only wanted to left alone to growup with their families. Families who had good family values. Their lives were disrupted by the goon of Saddam and his youth corps.
Reply 102 - Posted by: Dolley Madison, 4/8/2003 6:31:33 PM
Yes, ; what if this were your son, in prison, because he did not want to join the hillary youth?
You indoctrinate your son, and teach him to distrust his grandmother, by not allowing him to have a free conversation, FREE convresation with her! Do you realize the damage you do to your family, you diseased, disturbed and mentally, emotionally ill misfit?! You are not fit to be a mother.
If you were to receive your wish, hillary would take your son away from you, and you would have to smile and go along with it.
What a moron you are, susie saranwrap!
Reply 103 - Posted by: Cato_the_elder, 4/8/2003 6:49:22 PM
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Reply 104 - Posted by: Viking2002, 4/8/2003 6:59:26 PM
In Iraq, they throw them in jail. In America, we send them to government schools, and give them driver's licenses.
Go figure.
Reply 105 - Posted by: mamamoose, 4/8/2003 7:02:01 PM
No. 86, I read this story on Drudge about an hour ago. Don't know why you didn't see it.
These kids will be tomorrow's Iraqi leaders.
The younger generations will help to keep the new government honest. Our aim right now is to educate the youth between approximately 18 and 30 in such a way as to let them know that this is not a religiously oriented regime change, but rather aimed at a fair and just democratically oriented society. A new magazine titled "Hi" is in the first stages right now, aimed at them.
"Hi" is also a greeting used commonly in Iraq as well as the US.
Thanks God that these little ones are freed.
Reply 106 - Posted by: ForNow, 4/8/2003 7:02:20 PM
Real nice, Cato, thanks.
And its a good day for Wookies everywhere!
Reply 107 - Posted by: Dutch Uncle, 4/8/2003 7:08:20 PM
Indeed, this story, and all related pictures should be force-fed to the UN, the alphabet networks, Hollywierd, and all the assorted mush-headed peaceniks!
Reply 108 - Posted by: JustinThyme, 4/8/2003 7:17:47 PM
It happens this way.
My dear wife was caught behind the Berlin Wall in 1952. Her parents
were told to put her and her sisters into the "Young Pioneers" Commie
youth org. They refused.
Just before they were to be shipped off to Russia, they managed to
escape into the west.
Ruthless socialists. They should all be killed.
Reply 109 - Posted by: Embee, 4/8/2003 7:18:30 PM
#36, while you might be playing Devil's advocate, surely you have to realize that ANYONE in Iraq who kills, steals or commits a crime is either tortured or killed.
There is no way Saddam would put those children in jail if they were criminals. They cut off hands for far less than you suggest.
Reply 110 - Posted by: allegra, 4/8/2003 7:40:55 PM
#96...how can it sound like W, when the world 'hates' him?
Sounds more like another politician I can think of, whom the rest of the world 'loves'.
Reply 111 - Posted by: shilohsharps, 4/8/2003 7:58:56 PM
Hillary's Health Care Beast required us all to join a National Health Care Plan at the point of a felony offense. And there were attempts to make government schooling mandatory and to put any child in a home school into the protective custody of "Child Serives" and the parents charged with a bizarre child endangerment violation.
Those Iraqi childern could have been our own had Gore slid into power on the force of inner city vote fraud.
HildaBeast is slavering in the corner....we must crush her before there is another attempt on America from within.
Reply 112 - Posted by: walcb, 4/8/2003 8:07:51 PM
Some (Iraqis) will love us some will hate us. Helping the Iraqis is secondary, nice but secondary. We are there because it is in the best intrest of the US to be there. You should not get all wobbly because it can be shown a group of Iraqis like Americans, just as you should not be bothered because a bunch of Frogs hate us.
Reply 113 - Posted by: Prairie Fire, 4/8/2003 8:28:14 PM
Help! I have not been able to find any network that is airing this story. I checked FNC, MSNBC and CNN all afternoon and no report. What gives?
Reply 114 - Posted by: WyoEagle, 4/8/2003 8:49:24 PM
#53, best of the thread.
Cato=LDotter Staff Photographer Extrodinaire!
#36....aw never mind.
Fellow LDotters, thank you!
Reply 115 - Posted by: dokker, 4/8/2003 8:55:54 PM
WHERE IS CHARLEY RANGEL NOW
Reply 116 - Posted by: brinster, 4/8/2003 9:10:28 PM
These are staged photos? The Dems are sounding a bit like the Iraqi information minister. The denial of these people is so deep, they (hopefully)will never recover.
For the heck of it, I e-mailed one of the photos to Michael Moore. This is the fourth e-mail I've sent to fat boy, and for some reason, he has yet to answer.
Reply 117 - Posted by: doubting thomas, 4/8/2003 9:32:26 PM
Some from Washington and the general population are hoping for Syria next, Iran next North Korea next............Brother and Sister Conservative Americans, next ought to be right here in the US, we need a thorough housecleaning in Washington and the USA. Do what with them? I haven't a clue but their idea of freedom and sensible, law abider's ideas of the same differ by 180 degrees!
Reply 118 - Posted by: SoSensible, 4/8/2003 9:36:38 PM
I cannot understand WHY the libs ALWAYS choose to think the worst of the US and the best of a proven brute. Even in the face of unarguable evidence from embedded reporters who don't ALL work for Fox. Why? Are they so far gone in theory that they are just completely out of touch with the nuts and bolts of LIFE? Don't they WANT it to be true that our troops let children out of jail? It's really pretty appalling.
Reply 119 - Posted by: NYbob, 4/8/2003 9:40:46 PM
Arab intellectuals who were hoping for sadamn to put up more of a fight are not going to be impressed by this. The little people, the common folk don't matter to them. They are just masses to be domesticated by intellectuals.
Reply 120 - Posted by: RidgePole, 4/8/2003 10:07:11 PM
From the previous referenced article about S. Ritter:
You've spoke about having seen the children's prisons in Iraq. Can you describe what you saw there?
'The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children toddlers up to pre-adolescents whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace.'
Reply 121 - Posted by: teegore, 4/8/2003 10:12:29 PM
#96, Here are the Anti Christ's criteria according to scripture.
1. He will rise out of a revised, Roman Empire, such as the EU.
2. He will conquer the world through peace.
3. He will speak with great authority (he will be a compelling orator), having miraculous problem solving abilities. But, his cunning will flow from satan, fueled by a bitter hatred for God, Jews and Christians.
4. He will not regard the company of women, which means he might be celibate, or he could be a homosexual.
5. He will serve a god his fathers did not serve, the god of forces.
6. He will confirm a 7 year covenant with the Jews, (perhaps a revived form of Oslo, reinstated and spruced up) which will seem to solve the Middle East's problems as no one else has ever been able to do. He will break the covenant after 3 1/2 years, and turn on the Jews viciously.
7. He will recieve what appears to be a mortal wound in the head, then recover as if from the dead.
8. After 3 1/2 years, he will cause everyone on Earth to receive an identification mark in their hand or forehead (a chip or implant).
Reply 122 - Posted by: hereIstand, 4/8/2003 10:15:06 PM
#108- Don't mean to be picky, but the Berlin Wall was erected in August, 1961. Did you mean that your wife-to-be was caught behind the Iron Curtain? Wonderful that her family escaped that other fate.
As to this story- With watery eyes and a lump in my throat, I thank God for His mercy, Dubya for his vision, and our wonderful military for its courage. Semper Fi.
Reply 123 - Posted by: johobo, 4/8/2003 10:25:47 PM
But instead of reporting on this to the degree it deserves, the media is obsessing on reporters who were dumb enough to stay in a combatant area. Go figure. Self serving jerks.
Reply 124 - Posted by: Patman, 4/8/2003 10:34:49 PM
I wonder what Sean Penn thinks now of his
defense of Saddam? What do the other touchie
feelies in Hollowood think? What the hell is wrong with these people. Do huge egos cause the logic portion of the brain to grossly malfunction?
Reply 125 - Posted by: Too Darned Honest, 4/8/2003 10:55:28 PM
What's Baghdad Bob got to say about this, "What? We are just cooking cookies here in Iraq. Children being locked up for not joining the youth sqaud is just U.S. Zionist lies."
Reply 126 - Posted by: de danann, 4/8/2003 11:09:24 PM
a pox on the UN
Reply 127 - Posted by: aqualad, 4/8/2003 11:41:16 PM
Reply 128 - Posted by: soldiermom, 4/9/2003 1:42:08 AM
Well, forget it people, because the anti-war people will completely ignore this little news item. You will not see it discussed by anyone against the war and by most media outlets.