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New York Sun Staff Editorial
January 25, 2005
URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/8199No one who listened to Senator Clinton's speech to abortion rights supporters at Albany yesterday can have any doubt that she's running for president. In speaking about abortion previously, Mrs. Clinton has tended toward the combative. "There are a number of forces at work in our society that would try to turn back the clock and undermine a woman's right to choose," she said during her Senate campaign, "and we must remain vigilant." At a Washington rally last spring, she inveighed against Republicans who oppose abortion rights. Just two weeks ago, at a dinner sponsored by the International Women's Health Coalition, Mrs. Clinton attacked the Bush administration for undermining the reproductive rights of women worldwide.
But yesterday, before the 28th annual conference of the Family Planning Advocates of New York State, Mrs. Clinton sounded more like her husband, outpouring empathy for those who oppose abortion. "I, for one, respect those who believe with all their heart and conscience that there are no circumstances under which abortion should be available," she said. Instead of clashing, Mrs. Clinton said, advocates on both sides of the issue ought to unite on "common ground." Quoth she: "The fact is, the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies in the first place." The senator called abortion a "sad, even tragic choice to many, many women."
It's become increasingly clear that at least some Democratic leaders are waking up to the need to move their party away from an extreme position on abortion so as to reach out to the "values voters" who are said to have won President Bush the election. Mrs. Clinton was once an exemplar of the combative stance that alienates such voters, but she's now effecting a turnaround. The senator did criticize Mr. Bush on the abortion issue - but she did so from the right: "Unfortunately in the last few years, while we are engaged in ideological debate instead of one that uses facts and evidence and common sense, the rate of abortion is on the rise in some states," she said. "In the [first] three years since President Bush took office, eight states have seen an increase in abortion rates and four saw a decrease."
Mrs. Clinton contrasted this to the first three years of her husband's administration, when "we saw the rate of abortion consistently fall." Mrs. Clinton also said that religious faith was the primary reason that teenagers abstain from sexual intercourse, and therefore avoid unwanted pregnancy. These comments come on the heels of a speech she made Wednesday at a fund-raiser in Boston, in which she promoted the idea of faith-based solutions to social problems. According to a dispatch in the Boston Globe, Mrs. Clinton invoked God more than a half-dozen times. "I've always been a praying person," she told the crowd.
Indeed, said Mrs. Clinton, there has been a "false division" between faith based initiatives and the separation of church and state. "There is no contradiction between support for faith-based initiatives and upholding our constitutional principles," she said. Rather, the faithful must be allowed to "live out their faith in the public square." Attorney General-designate Gonzales couldn't have put it better. Not that we seek to mock the senator. On the contrary, there's something about having to run for office that can bring understanding, as happened to Mrs. Clinton after she kissed the wife of Yasser Arafat. Once she became a candidate, Mrs. Clinton was forced to meet with people who were able to steer her to a better position, and today she is a resolute supporter of Israel and a leader, within her party, in the war on terrorism.
As she seeks to make herself viable on a national scale, Mrs. Clinton has already staked out a position to the right of Mr. Bush on illegal immigration. In a November interview on Fox News, she said that she doesn't "think that we have protected our borders or our ports." She reiterated her stance last month. "I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants," she told ABC Radio, a position that wants for - how should we put it - nuance. She called for a new entry-and-exit system that would track immigrant workers. "People have to stop employing illegal immigrants," she said.
We have plenty of differences with Mrs. Clinton, but if all this can be taken as opening salvos of the 2008 president contest, terrific. It increases the pressure on the Republicans to deliver on their agenda. On Sunday at Palm Beach, Fla., Mrs. Clinton told the hundreds who gathered to hear her that "on both political and substantive grounds, my husband did it just right." In an ironic way, she seems to be running as an incumbent of sorts. She herself noted that she plans to copy her husband when it comes both to substance and to politics, and - though she didn't say this - what he was noted for was coopting the Republican agenda.
January 25, 2005 Edition
Comments:
Actually I want to see a Barbara Boxer- Howard Dean ticket.
Reply 1 - Posted by: LoveGW, 1/25/2005 9:32:34 AM
'A number of forces' 'a vast right-wing conspiracy' What's next you paranoid wanna-be? Men in black?
Reply 2 - Posted by: Tulsa, 1/25/2005 9:55:45 AM
The Country isn't ready for a female potus, imo. Not even Dr. Rice.
I want to see what hill does about 06.
ITMT, I'm not giving her space in my brain.
Reply 3 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/25/2005 9:58:30 AM
Hillary is like a leopard who is attempting to change it's spots.
Reply 4 - Posted by: cap MarineTet68, 1/25/2005 9:58:53 AM
OK, I'll be the one to overstate the obvious. Anyone who shifts their stance so completely on such a long-embattled issue based merely on political expediency has no integrity - no moral fiber and cannot be trusted.
Oh, we're talking about PIAPS?
Never mind.
Reply 5 - Posted by: petie3, 1/25/2005 10:00:52 AM
It's apparent she is no longer getting political advice from Dick Morris or Lanny Davis. Who is the genius who is feeding her these positions? Brilliant.
Be afraid.
Reply 6 - Posted by: garyhope, 1/25/2005 10:01:42 AM
The most dangerous woman in the world.
A smug, condcending, self-righteious,psychotic, fascist hate monger. A power mad lunaticl.
Reply 7 - Posted by: gone2pot, 1/25/2005 10:15:40 AM
"Instead of clashing, Mrs. Clinton said, advocates on both sides of the issue ought to unite on "common ground."
Common ground? Yes, and the terrorists really, really, really, really, really, really wish their captives would stay alive AFTER they cut off their captives' heads. Nothing like a little common ground.
Reply 8 - Posted by: Toby, 1/25/2005 10:21:54 AM
If anyone needs any more clues that this evil witch is running, how about a neon sign?
Reply 9 - Posted by: rightguy, 1/25/2005 10:24:10 AM
Say what you will, but this witch is smart. She is actually going to run to the right of the pubs on some issues.
And this stand on abortion is totally disengenuous. I think PIAPS was actually drooling at one time about the prospect of partial birth abortions on demand. She and her ilk would legislate post-birth abortions if they could.
Reply 10 - Posted by: rk, 1/25/2005 10:33:28 AM
#6, why don't you speak up and say whats in your heart.
Every lefty will vote for her. Another nail biter is looming. But she will have aged some and tv has taught us to only love young and good looking woman.
Jeeze, why don't I say what I believe.
Reply 11 - Posted by: scotty, 1/25/2005 10:34:21 AM
hilliary wants to be president; I don't want "her" to be; we have common ground.
Reply 12 - Posted by: Bedford, 1/25/2005 10:37:17 AM
The office of Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)requests that all persons or organizations possessing any records - video, audio, or writings of the Senator prior to 1/24/2005, please turn them in her office in NY.
It is well-known to the American People, especially those living in the 'Blue States' that records of the Senator reputed to be made prior to 1/24/2005 are, in fact, fakes and forgeries (CBS, take note) created by the VRWC, Swift Boat Veterans, Klansmen, homophobes, sexists, smokers, parents with obese choldren, and other Republican Party-Affiliated extremists dedicated to distorting the Senator's image should she decide to run for higher office in the future. Like if the sun sould decide to come up tomorrow. Persons possessing such records and not desiring to turn them in to the Senator's office may register their refusal by leaving name and address on the the Senator's office phone (Specialized Line) at 1-800-VINCEFOSTER.
Reply 13 - Posted by: sinic, 1/25/2005 10:39:51 AM
Think Jean Francoise Kerrie brought out the opposition vote? Wait until this beast hits the trail! Conservatives will come out of the woodwork. If the 06' elections trend the way the last few have, my money says she bails.
Reply 14 - Posted by: Boattail, 1/25/2005 10:48:32 AM
Sister St Hitlery doing what she does best. Lying thru her teeth. She has no Conscience,no Soul..#6 said it best.
Wish Rush would put together Hitlery's statements now and what she has said over the years, nothing but contradictions from her lying mouth.America does not need a Coronation..
Reply 15 - Posted by: snakeoil, 1/25/2005 10:58:51 AM
I do not fear Thunder Thighs. But I am terrified of her brigade of flying monkeys. Did you see what they did to that scarecrow? Actually, PIAPS is a dream opponent. She has no personality and is almost as depised as Bobby Kennedy. Only someone equally despised such as Newt could lose to her. Maybe Laura Bush could run for president in 08.
Reply 16 - Posted by: avogadro, 1/25/2005 11:02:05 AM
This new tactic of Hillary's is deviously brilliant.
However, it is a classic 'bait and switch' con game....
Elect the 'pious religious conservative' then the 'radical Machiavellian leftist' will govern (however...'rule' would be a more appropriate verb)
Buyer beware......
Reply 17 - Posted by: recallhillary.com, 1/25/2005 11:02:06 AM
Has anyone but the brilliant Bob Tyrrell ever tracked how much real time she spends in her "home state." Bob's recent book, "Madame Hillary" further deconstructed "Senator" Clinton to be the hollow, corrupt, vicious, self-absorbed person that she is. Among his research was her abysmal attendance record at her Chappaqua "home", as in three overnights her first two years in squatting in the U.S. Senate.
Say what you will about Schumer, but he knows his home state, and is a frequent presence at various constiutent business and issue-oriented events. She is not, yet expects to leapfrog over her re-election bid into a Presidential nomination. She'd best assemble defense attorneys relative to Rosen giving her up during his campaign finance plea bargain.
Reply 18 - Posted by: cap MarineTet68, 1/25/2005 11:05:24 AM
"Common Ground" - 1)There is no 'common ground' between murdering a baby and not murdering a baby. They are binary, polar opposites. 2)The idea of 'common ground' with Islam is a joke. The enemy will settle for nothing less than 100% of the 'common ground'. 'Infidels have four choices: 1) Submit to Islam (not always your choice) 2) lose your life (never your choice) 3) Keep your life (not necessarily your choice) and pay a tax 4) flee (and await them catching up to you). There are *NO* other choices as viewed by THEIR rules.
Reply 19 - Posted by: Tulsa, 1/25/2005 11:07:26 AM
If she's not a sitting Senator after 06, she won't have the venue she now has. If she decides to run wide open, she's as big a target.
I repeat. rock/hard place.
kerry thinks he's running. teresa says otherwise. we have the kennedy faction and the bill and hill faction. we have the deaniacs. fun for all, imo.
hill is not electable, imo and there's still the WOT. It won't be over and the Country isn't going to make a female CIC...not that woman.
Reply 20 - Posted by: radrelic, 1/25/2005 11:08:06 AM
Hitlery, the internationalist. What balance. US soldiers serving hors d'vouers (sp)at the UN.
Down with hegemony, up with more international money for the Clinton dynasty. BTW, not much dynasty for abortion embracers.
Reply 21 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/25/2005 11:10:05 AM
Like I said yesterday, she's running, but good. In the last couple of weeks, she's
- anti-illegal immigration
- for faith-based initiatives and prays a lot
- accused GW of causing abortions to rise because of goofed-up family planning
- says abortion proponents and foes should find some common ground.
Bill is coaching her well.
Reply 22 - Posted by: Delilah, 1/25/2005 11:10:31 AM
This woman has no idea what the truth is and lies like a rug.
Reply 23 - Posted by: brg119, 1/25/2005 11:14:34 AM
I always try to be optomistic about things, but the only bright spot in this argument is that we may never have another Hilary or Boxer.
Reply 24 - Posted by: Dixie, 1/25/2005 11:19:44 AM
I have to agree with #2. After the exposure to a strong leader like George W. Bush (who is willing to step outside our boundaries to defend our country) and a strong, compassionate First Lady like Laura Bush, the country will see weak Presidents and power-grabbing First Ladies as the aberrations they are.
Hillary could come off like another Margaret Thatcher, in which case she might a chance at getting elected. However, Mrs. Thatcher was the soul of integrity, and you can't say that about Mrs. Clinton.
Reply 25 - Posted by: drumleggagh, 1/25/2005 11:22:45 AM
Laura Ingraham hit the nail on the head on her radio show this AM when, in referring to PIAP's speech yesterday, asked the question why is abortion a
Reply 26 - Posted by: nevernaught, 1/25/2005 11:24:26 AM
I say run Rudy against her Thighness in 06. Any other state in the union would throw them both out, however Rudy is a New York hero of 911 and thunderbuns is still traveling the road from hell.
Reply 27 - Posted by: drumleggagh, 1/25/2005 11:28:52 AM
Laura Ingraham hit the nail on the head on her radio show this AM when, in referring to PIAP's speech yesterday, asked the question why is abortion a sad, even tragic choice to many, many women as Hillary said. If abortion is not murder then why is it sad and tragic? Can you answer that question Hillary
Reply 28 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 1/25/2005 11:34:13 AM
Could she actually turn into a bigger flip-flopper than Lurch? Yes!
Reply 29 - Posted by: CorkysDad, 1/25/2005 11:37:07 AM
She won't make it, even though the MSM is pushing her down the throats of Americans. Why? There are too many of us "common as dirt under her nails people" who will crawl naked over burning coals and broken glass to vote against her. LOOK at her eyes (the windows to ones soul) -DEAD like a sharks eyes.
Reply 30 - Posted by: AppleAnnie, 1/25/2005 11:39:48 AM
Sen. Clinton has made a wonderful first step suggestion to bring together both sides of a very divisive issue.
How about we have an immediate moritorium on all abortions while we find and discuss our common ground? I think we are at the stage where both sides can agree that partial birth abortions are barbaric and should be banned.
Please, oh please, someone ask her that at a news conference. Does she have those?
Reply 31 - Posted by: jdhguy, 1/25/2005 11:41:16 AM
In the age of high def TV Hillary can't win.
Reply 32 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/25/2005 11:42:26 AM
She won't run for re-election in '06. Too dangerous (she might lose). She'll say she doesn't want to be dishonest to her constituents, and wants to put all her energy into running for President.
Reply 33 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/25/2005 11:45:58 AM
Everyone relax. Hillary Clinton will never...I repeat....NEVER...be president of the United States!!
Reply 34 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/25/2005 11:48:40 AM
Hugh Hewitt says that she will pick Obama B. as her VP. I agree. A dream ticket for radical libs.
Meanwhile, we have nobody of note in the wings aside from McPain and Giuliani, both of whom are very flawed. We do have a great machine (thank you Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, et al), so that is a very good thing.
Reply 35 - Posted by: TruthRules, 1/25/2005 11:48:53 AM
I'd like to believe that Hitlery will never be President, but I never thought she'd be a senator either. We know she will stop at nothing to get what she wants, so we must be vigilant. We cannot afford to be complacent or to write her off as unelectable. Hitlery is dangerous and should not be undestimated in her quest for power.
Reply 36 - Posted by: ar15, 1/25/2005 12:00:42 PM
On Nov 3rd , 2008 Republicans will be singing. Ding dong the witch is dead , the witch is dead , the witch is dead, ding dong the wicked witch is dead. She's gone where leftwing candidates go , below ..... below below below.
Reply 37 - Posted by: Society Dweller, 1/25/2005 12:00:47 PM
There are forces in this country seeking to take your guns away,seeking to take your money away in the form of higher taxes, and seeking to give universal health care to every human being on Earth. Hillary Clinton has big aspirations and an ego to match. Let her run, she will lose worse than Kerry and Gore.
Reply 38 - Posted by: ks_rep, 1/25/2005 12:10:08 PM
Barbara Boxer, Howard Dean Ticket???
Maybe the Republican will run Rudy Giuliani, Dick Cheney ticket...then we will have:
Bar - Ho
against
Rudy - Dick
Bwahahahahahahah!!!
Reply 39 - Posted by: MMC, 1/25/2005 12:18:51 PM
I have a sister that would vote for Mrs. Clinton in a heart beat. My sister is married with children, and a small business owner. She lives conservatively, but said "Hell will freeze before I vote Republican."
Ok, so I was endowed with the brain trust of my family- hahahahahahahaha
Reply 40 - Posted by: doublenickel, 1/25/2005 12:28:55 PM
#4...another example is Algore. He was originally pro-life, until he started running for national office. Hence, "no integrity - no moral fiber and cannot be trusted."
Reply 41 - Posted by: LadyVet, 1/25/2005 12:29:08 PM
As the left becomes more ''values-based'' and as they ''find religion,'' and as they continue to ''do it for the children,'' Kim Gandy's and NOW will remember their favorite Bible verse: Train up a politician in the way she should go, and when she is old, she will not depart from it.
Reply 42 - Posted by: woopoo4ever, 1/25/2005 12:37:51 PM
The best strategy is to absolutely ruin and destroy her for her Senate re-election, thereby limiting or eliminating her run in '08 for POTUS. Her tactics are so transparent they won't stand-up in the light of plain truth and her record. President Bush has got to enact some good long-term policies, foreign and domestic, which will solidfy the Repub base as well as draw a significant number of Dems away from her. These should be the Beast's pet issues just as Bubba did to the Repubs. The most important bases are the Blacks and Jews; the issues are health, kids and jobs. He is already well along on national safety.
Reply 43 - Posted by: newsj, 1/25/2005 12:38:12 PM
Aw yes, I can hear her now...
'well, actually, I was FOR abortion before I was AGAINST it...'
Yeah, sure, Hillary, whatever you say.
Can you just imagine the PIAPS if Chelsea announced she was pregnant??
PIAPS would make sure she got an abortion if she had to perform it herself!
Reply 44 - Posted by: MMC, 1/25/2005 12:39:47 PM
Hillary Clinton to Corcoran Group's Pam Liebman: "I spent the Christmas holiday cleaning my closets and organizing my kitchen." In Cindy Adams January 25th column.
Are baking cookies and headbands right behind?
I think the quote should have read " I was shredding papers from my closet and organizing the kitchen staff."
Reply 45 - Posted by: Christie, 1/25/2005 12:49:40 PM
HRC: "I've always been a praying person". THAT comes as no surprise...actually anything this harpie says or does does not shock me in the least.
I remember when this site began...I wrote to dear Lucianne and told her of my fears of the worst couple. She assured me that they would 'go away'...not long after that, her optimism was downgraded. Now, she alerts us to the gathering storm. At least we have each other and the knowledge that if we defeated the heinz heiress, we can defeat Oinkubus. We are at least as vigilant as she is.
Let us pray.
Reply 46 - Posted by: doublenickel, 1/25/2005 12:52:05 PM
When I hear the term, "abortion on demand", I picture late night drive thru's and blue light specials at K-Mart. Can do-it-yourself abortion kits from Pfizer be far behind?
Reply 47 - Posted by: weejun, 1/25/2005 1:14:54 PM
Once I overcame the onset of nausea, I managed to wade through this article, and I conclude like many of you that this is no time to relax our guard. As Dick Morris has pointed out numerous times, Hitlery is smart enough (heck, she learned at the feet of the master) to say whatever or portray herself in whatever manner it takes to get elected. If in 08 the GOP nominates some doofus "good ole boy" like it has in the past, we could be looking at this witch as the next commander in chief (now there's a REAL source of nausea for you).
Reply 48 - Posted by: missy, 1/25/2005 1:42:52 PM
Relax everyone. Yes hitley will run(did you catch to couple@the swearing in); my bet is Powell is going to run and he will BEAT HER LIKE A DRUM!!! The American people are more diligent about investing in their future since 9/11. Hitlery is not the future.
Reply 49 - Posted by: isaiah54-2, 1/25/2005 1:53:42 PM
One of the happiest days of our lives will be when we see the tail lights on HRC's oversized rear bumper fading into the distance...
Reply 50 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/25/2005 2:02:40 PM
Powell's wife won't let him run.
I sure wish we had somebody besides McCain and Giuliani for visibility right now. Condi? I'd go for her as nominee...
Reply 51 - Posted by: usmcsarge, 1/25/2005 2:12:58 PM
The Witch's office released details of her new pick up truck purchase this morning. As I write, it's being fitted with a gun rack. She's musing over whether to go the rifle or shotgun route.
A can of "chaw" in her back pocket is next....
You better believe that tens of millions of TVized zoombies will believe the new "moderate" Hillary. Be very afraid.
Old Marine Sarge
Reply 52 - Posted by: TruthRules, 1/25/2005 2:13:12 PM
We definitely need a STRONG candidate to run against Hiterly.
McCain would be a horrible president (he's already a horrible senator!)
Frist is way too weak (he keeps proving it over and over)
Reply 53 - Posted by: doublenickel, 1/25/2005 2:15:38 PM
The Republican hopefuls will remain out of sight to let GW take his agenda forward. They will not emerge until August 2007. Let's not be impatient. This term is just begun and it's going to be a fun trip!
Reply 54 - Posted by: redfeather, 1/25/2005 2:18:00 PM
My grandmother's brain was dead, but her heart was still beating. It was the first time we ever had a democrat in the family.
Reply 55 - Posted by: Photoonist, 1/25/2005 2:38:22 PM
Think of how close the elections have been percentage-wise and you will realize how few conservatives Hillary has to con. Better that she is destroyed before '08 by being nailed for all her illegal dealings and caught on tape by some enterprising journalist (or spiteful employee) mouthing her true feelings and policies, obscenities included.
Reply 56 - Posted by: Ardys Parrish, 1/25/2005 2:38:47 PM
Sure, Hillary is a preying person-she preys on the gullible, the weak, the gullible, the people with the same agenda, and did I say the gullible? But we have her superfile-it is the internet and it contains all her gaffes, positions, speeches, and did I say gaffes? If President Bush has a successful Presidency his chosen successor will be the next President. If he doesn't then the Democrat candidate will win, regardless of who it is, IMO. But 4 years is a long time and stuff happens-the internet is only going to get stronger.
Reply 57 - Posted by: Halfgenius, 1/25/2005 2:44:44 PM
One thing fer shore...with Hillary's tin political ear and her godawful screeching she shore does need to tune up a lot, if fact, the doggone hawgs are a-howling at the tape I made of'er...N' hawgs don't normally howl...they squeal. I put a pitcher of'er up in the corn crib so as to stop the rats from stealin' tha' corn...the doggne rats broght corn they stole 30 days ago.
Reply 58 - Posted by: Benblayke, 1/25/2005 2:52:41 PM
The re-invention of the hildabeast from radical left wing socialist to moderate is taking place before our eyes.
Reply 59 - Posted by: avidreader, 1/25/2005 3:02:39 PM
In the past, politicians COULD reinvent themselves. Sympathetic news outlets willingly helped. Stories could live or die, depending on whether or not they helped. Unfortunately for Hillary, those days are over. There will be bloggers dogging her every sentence & pointing out every change she makes. It'll be great to watch.
Reply 60 - Posted by: Saleen Mustang, 1/25/2005 3:19:45 PM
Anyone who seriously believes Hillary's demure denials about her future plans for 2008 are either fools or tools.
Or both.
Reply 61 - Posted by: Dignitary Protection, 1/25/2005 3:23:18 PM
To #39: I also have a sister who would never vote Republican and if the PIAPS ran, I'm sure she would vote for her.
BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER
To quote #33:"Hillary Clinton will never...I repeat....NEVER...be president of the United States".
Reply 62 - Posted by: steveW, 1/25/2005 3:46:48 PM
The Hillary campaign will rise or fall to the extent her shady side is kept in the spotlights. If her dark underbelly is exposed, she will lose. If it is given a free pass - by timid Republicans - she could very well win. Dems will allow her any and all hypocrisies, triangulation and insincere posturing. They are all disingenuous anyway, and won't care if she is even more so. The trick will be not letting her proximity to (or participation in) crimes and scandals slip from the electorate's too-short attention span. On the issues, she'll be slick as can be. She can only be beat by exposing her true record of lies.
Reply 63 - Posted by: ldroshine, 1/25/2005 4:52:22 PM
The only thing piaps brings together are her thighs!
Reply 64 - Posted by: PenDragon, 1/25/2005 4:58:20 PM
While we're at it let's worry about this one as well. According to some it seems that Orin Hatch is planning a consitutional amendment to allow the foreign born to run for president. An under-the-radar deal with democrats for support of this would be to get rid of the 22nd amendment which denigns more than two terms as president to a native born american - this to allow Bill Clinton to run again.
So if you are prone to Clinton Nightmares - there's more than one to suffer from.
Reply 65 - Posted by: ocho reales, 1/25/2005 5:31:55 PM
"I've always been a praying person."
She prayed she wouldn't get caught in Whitewater. She prayed that the public wouldn't learn about her affairs with Web Hubbel, Vince Foster and Donna Shelala. She prayed that no one would learn about her involvement firing the travel office staff. She prayed that she could deflect investigations when the Rose Law firm billing records were found. She prayed that Bill wouldn't give her an STD. She prayed that Monica Lewinsky would get hit by a bus. And she prayed that the gullible public would accept her "vast right wing" conspiracy theory on the Today show. Yes, she is a praying person, all right! No doubt about it!
Reply 66 - Posted by: Katie Corrupt, 1/25/2005 5:48:30 PM
If you marveled at seeing John Kerry's 30-year-old, Vietnam chickens coming home to roost, wait until you see Hillary's Dixie Mafia chickens come home to roost!
Hillary, beware the Blogosphere.
Reply 67 - Posted by: foont, 1/25/2005 5:53:52 PM
She probably does pray. But to who?
Reply 68 - Posted by: qr4j, 1/25/2005 6:24:32 PM
Hillary's logic goes something like this: More family planning (read "abortion") decreases the number of abortions (read also "family planning"). Circular and silly and illogical. Yep, she's a Democrat.
In which states did the increase in the number of abortions occur? I'd like to know that.
Reply 69 - Posted by: shombalor, 1/25/2005 7:08:39 PM
Total flip-flop. Take notes everybody.
Reply 70 - Posted by: dataman, 1/25/2005 7:15:29 PM
There are an awful lot of people who will not listen to any talk about Hillary's past. They have already made their minds up about her. They believe in her and they will vote for her, in droves. I have a couple of family members included in this pack. They are absolutely intractable. I am worried for the future. I am looking forward to a SwiftVet type expose of her highness. Unfortunately, like the SwiftVets, I do not believe it will sway her true believers.
Reply 71 - Posted by: frankie, 1/25/2005 7:18:09 PM
AOL poll alert on PIAPS and abortion.
Reply 72 - Posted by: mabelkitty, 1/25/2005 7:41:44 PM
Keep the transcript of the Senate Debate on partial-birth abortion handy to show all those with short-term memories.
The Evil/Stupid One got her can handed to her by Rick Santorum.
Reply 73 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 1/25/2005 7:45:21 PM
You all saw what the Swift boaters did to Kerry so begin now a switf booters campaign to put Hillary right where she belongs.
As to any deals to change the Constitution just remember Kerry only carried about 18 states so where do you get ratification by 2/3.
Sorry Arnie it just isn't to be.
Some investi gating blogger needs to hike back about 7 years ago and look for the Hillary Abortion clinic connection----
silent partner. Now how much profit did she turn from the clinic selling parts.
Next take the journey into allegations she was involved with the leading man engaged in selling women and children for sex. After all the CEO of that business was photoed many times with Hill and Bill as he stayed in the white house.
Reply 74 - Posted by: NickG, 1/25/2005 8:19:06 PM
Here’s what we all know and dread. While Hitlery is pure evil, the hidden group that really rules our nation has already consummated some sort of black deal with her and decided to appoint her as our next President. There is nothing we, the people, can do.
She’s got their OK to begin campaigning and is. Her path is unobstructed, and the path of her opponents will be poisoned at each turn. She can make ANY mistake normally fatal to anyone else, and it will be like she did nothing or even be transformed into a plus.
Every word or small “good” deed from her for the next 4 years will receive so much gloating-praise from the media it will make you literally sick. The propaganda will be such that within 3-years many "conservatives" will actually begin to love her. She’s a lock.
Only a miracle, like her untimely premature demise from this world can avert the detonation of this ticking WMD time-bomb. Start praying.
Reply 75 - Posted by: Billyc, 1/25/2005 8:31:53 PM
At the top I'm 100 % for a Dean /Boxer ticket for the next Presidential. Perhaps are we not all too anxious , jumping the gun since GW has not made an inauguration /next 4 years speech yet!
Reply 76 - Posted by: NOBS, 1/25/2005 8:32:38 PM
I have been reading this thread all day---if anyone can give one insomnia/indigestion and convince one this country is finished it would be the "election" of herself the hildabeast-SCARY TO say the least........NOBS
Reply 77 - Posted by: convert, 1/25/2005 8:34:32 PM
I don't know about all that conspiracy stuff you've thrown in there, but unfortunately, you are exactly right. Barring some unforeseen event, she will be president in 08. Women and many college age men will vote for her in droves. Given that the media was able to ignore a HUGE problem with Kerry's past and the fact that he'd never signed a 180--something no Repub could have gotten away with for 10 min.--the media will have no problem with Hilary. Piece of cake.
Reply 78 - Posted by: Dolley Madison, 1/25/2005 8:46:49 PM
If hillary is smart, then kerry was a genius, for he changed his positions on many issues. hillary is a loser, and I agree that she will never be president of the USA.
I would never vote for a woman for the presidency.
We have a number waiting in the wings, to run for the presidency; Bill Frist for sure. I am also wondering if Asa Hutchinson will run, and Tom Ridge. I've heard in the past that both of them are interested in running for that office. And after the success W, and the Republican Revolution, there will be many that will run.
Reply 79 - Posted by: Halfgenius, 1/25/2005 8:55:41 PM
Let's not forget that the media has marginalized itself, threw caution to the wind and obfuscated to their hearts content about Kerry...look what happened to them. Until and unless some sort of mircle can be performed by the press in the next 4 years there will be nothing left of them to carry her forward. It was the media that has made her their darling and without them she is nothing.
The Bloggers will carry the day, they are like bull dogs with a bone and are to many of them and they are too varied to be controlled. Let's just keep a wary eye out and see how this PIAPS episode plays out. She is nothing without her scripted interviews and can be rattled very easily.
Reply 80 - Posted by: GOPologist, 1/25/2005 9:02:57 PM
Bring it on, Madam of the West!
Reply 81 - Posted by: zyzzyxi, 1/25/2005 9:09:39 PM
Four years is such a long time.
-She could be a felon by then, unable to run.
-The mainstream networks may be less influential, as cBS's decline shows.
-The NY Slimes, LA Slimes, Washington Compost, etc. may continue to lose subscribers and influence.
-The Internet and its ability to counter Liberal BS may continue to gain influence.
-She may lose her Senate seat.
-Another DimRat may beat her in the primaries.
-The WOT may still leave people thinking that its not safe enough to vote Dimorat.
-Bubba may get caught with another bimbo, reminding the whole country of the sleeze that the Klintoons brought to the WH.
And own, and own, and own...
Reply 82 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 1/25/2005 9:22:15 PM
"...She is nothing without her scripted interviews and can be rattled very easily.."
#79 has pinpointed a real weakness in PIAPS. Keep in mind as well that she has never had any serious competition. She could win the 'RAT nomination by default as Kerry did last year, but if the 'Pubbies apply some serious heat her vicious temper and grating personality will make themselves evident at inopportune times.
Of course, we need an appealing candidate to run against her in '08. Forget Guiliani or Frist or whoever. IMO Sen. George Allen (R-VA) would be a very good candidate.
Reply 83 - Posted by: Duke of Duval, 1/25/2005 10:02:20 PM
That woman simply is not a human I'd ever invite home for supper with my family. In the most simple terms, she is not a person I have any respect for.
Reply 84 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 1/25/2005 10:18:33 PM
Actually I want to see a Hitlery Clinton - Barbara Boxer ticket. Or a train wreck.
Reply 85 - Posted by: ar15, 1/25/2005 10:20:48 PM
I seem to remember this guy, uhhhhh, lucky hat, Vietnam, Cambodia, polls,formidable.
Reply 86 - Posted by: wrywrt, 1/26/2005 12:11:03 AM
If the RATS want to see what a real liar looks like they have only to look at the hildebeast.
Reply 87 - Posted by: msjena, 1/26/2005 12:20:51 AM
Hillary would have to win one of Ohio or Florida or both Missouri and Iowa to get elected, assuming the other states don't change. I don't think she has a chance in either Florida or Missouri. Ohio is her best bet but I don't see where more votes are wrung out there for the Democrats. I agree that Obama is a likely pick as her running mate, but what, in the long run, does he add to the ticket? They may love him in California, New York and Illinois but the Democrats already have those states.
Reply 88 - Posted by: NickG, 1/26/2005 1:06:09 AM
Call Hillary Clinton anything you like (PIAPS, Hitlery, etc.), but precede her name with her proper title: "President-Elect" (or President-Designate to be exact).
