CITY, FED PROBES EYE PARDONGATE BILLIONAIRE AS A 'MAJOR PLAYER' IN SADDAM'S SCAM
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By NILES LATHEMDecember 13, 2004 -- POST WORLD EXCLUSIVE
WASHINGTON — Billionaire Marc Rich has emerged as a central figure in the U.N. oil-for-food scandal and is under investigation for brokering deals in which scores of international politicians and businessmen cashed in on sweetheart oil deals with Saddam Hussein, The Post has learned.
Rich, the fugitive Swiss-based commodities trader who received a controversial pardon from President Bill Clinton in January 2001, is a primary target of criminal probes under way in the U.S. attorney's office in New York and by Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau, sources said.
"We think he was a major player in this — a central figure," a senior law-enforcement official told The Post.
Investigators are looking into a series of deals that took place in the months after his pardon from Clinton. If criminal wrongdoing is established in these deals, he could be subject to prosecution.
Investigators say they have received information that Rich and Ben Pollner, a New York-based oil trader who heads Taurus Oil, set up a series of companies in Liechtenstein and other countries that they used to put together deals between Saddam and his international supporters in the controversial oil-voucher scheme — which the dictator designed to win international support against U.S. sanctions at the United Nations.
Under the scam, hundreds of international political and financial figures from France, Russia and other countries were awarded middleman vouchers allowing them to purchase set quantities of Iraqi oil at discount rates.
These so-called "non-end users" could then resell the oil on the open market and make profits of up to 50 cents a barrel. Benon Sevan, who headed the U.N. oil-for-food program, is among those listed in Iraqi Oil Ministry documents as having been a recipient of the vouchers.
Since most of the recipients did not have refineries or cargo ships, they needed to sell the oil to someone else who could ship the oil out of Iraq in order to cash in.
Investigators now believe Rich and Pollner brokered many of the deals by finding buyers for the oil allocated to people who were bribed by Saddam. The discount Iraqi oil would be resold to major oil companies at higher prices and Rich and Pollner would pocket percentages of the profits, worth hundreds of millions of dollars, sources said.
"To make this work, they needed someone who knows what he's doing and how to put these deals together," the senior law-enforcement official said of Rich's role in the scandal.
So intense is the interest of prosecutors in the Rich connection that Pollner was recently "grabbed" and questioned by investigators from Morgenthau's office as he was on his way to Kennedy Airport for an overseas trip, a law-enforcement official told The Post.
In an angry confrontation that followed, Pollner told the New York investigators that they had no jurisdiction over oil deals that took place outside the United States and refused to cooperate, an official familiar with the interrogation said.
Pollner and Rich could not be reached for comment.
The Rich connection is the latest wrinkle in a rapidly mushrooming scandal that has thrown the United Nations into its gravest crisis and has led to numerous calls for U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan to step down.
Rich, who fled the country to Switzerland in 1983 to escape an indictment for racketeering and tax evasion as well as trading oil with Ayatollah Khomeini's Iran, has not set foot inside the United States since his pardon.
In January 2001, in the final hours his presidency, Clinton bypassed law-enforcement and intelligence agencies to wipe the books clean for Rich after being subjected to intense lobbying from former Israel Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Rich's jet-setting ex-wife, Denise, who donated more than $1 million to Democratic campaigns — including Sen. Hillary Rodham's first Senate race — along with an additional $450,000 to Clinton's library fund.
Investigators still do not know how recipients of the vouchers led to Rich, but say his relationship with Saddam goes back more than a decade.
A report by the House Government Reform Committee on Rich's clemency deal established that it was well known to the CIA and other U.S. law-enforcement agencies at the time of the pardon that Rich had been dealing with Saddam since the early 1990s — after the Persian Gulf War when Iraq was the subject of an international embargo.
The report, which relied on several classified briefings by the CIA, said Rich loaned money to the cash-strapped dictator in exchange for favorable treatment on oil prices at a later time.
An internal U.N. document dated June 1992, released to The Post by the House International Relations Committee, also revealed that U.N. officials were concerned about Rich's involvement in an earlier attempt to launch the oil-for-food program.
The U.N. document said Rich was involved in a possible "triangular arms-for-oil deal involving Chile, Iraq and South Africa," as well as illegally exporting Iraqi oil through Syria, and expressed concern that his inclusion on a U.N. list of approved oil traders would be "inappropriate" and would open the United Nations up to criticism that "criteria and standards used to select suitable companies are too lax."
Law-enforcement officials said the primary interest of current grand-jury probes taking place in New York focus on Rich's oil deals with Saddam that took place after his pardon, which could make him fair game for a new round of indictments.
Some of the deals took place in February 2001 — one month after he received his pardon.
Of particular interest to investigators is a series of deals outlined in recently released Iraqi Oil Ministry documents that show allocations of more than 72 million barrels of oil to a French oil trader Patrick Maugein.
Maugein, an oil trader, is a longtime business associate of Rich and oil-trading firm Trafigura and has also been identified as a close friend of French President Jacques Chirac. A report in October by CIA weapons inspector Charles Duelfer said members of Saddam's regime "considered Maugein a conduit to Chirac."
Investigators are also looking at Rich's fingerprints on several oil deals involving Russian political figures and businessmen. Rich has longstanding ties in Russia and has done several questionable commodities deals with Russian mafia figures and oligarchs, who seized control of vast Russian financial and natural resources after the collapse of the Soviet Union, sources said.
Several major American oil companies, including Chevron Texaco and Exxon Mobil, have also received grand-jury subpoenas.
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Reply 1 - Posted by: FunnyGirl, 12/13/2004 5:35:46 AM
When can we start linking this dirty money to the Red Queen?
Reply 2 - Posted by: antigummint, 12/13/2004 5:39:01 AM
I can't understand why we are totally satisfied when some politician/executive/operative is dethroned and is allowed to wander off home with his booty. I've seen dozens of politicians enter DC and the statehouse with meager finances only to be discovered with their hands in the cookiejar. There's an investigation. They back out. Resign. Take their booty and go back to wherever. And then everything is OK with us. There!! he lost his job! However, if any of us did anything near like what they habitually do, we'd end up in the pen.
Reply 3 - Posted by: Maybeth, 12/13/2004 5:44:25 AM
No wonder Bubba is in such a hurry to get Kofi's job. This scandal appears to be getting mighty close to his front door, doesn't it?! I can almost hear Hillary screeching, 'Fix this mess ..... NOW!'
Reply 4 - Posted by: babsathome, 12/13/2004 5:45:56 AM
Ah, but their money buys freedom. They also know where all the dirt is buried on the rest of the "lawmakers". I pray Hillary is finished but look who she hangs with more of her kind. They circle the wagons.
Reply 5 - Posted by: War Elephant, 12/13/2004 6:06:40 AM
I wonder if the pardon itself could have aided and abetted Saddam. Hm.
Reply 6 - Posted by: Ardys Parrish, 12/13/2004 6:28:41 AM
This is normal by New York (city) and Washington (DC) standards we have been told by someone who knows. Money and who has it and how they throw it around not how it is acquired is the standard of success and power.
Reply 7 - Posted by: zek, 12/13/2004 6:30:24 AM
When is the left going to wake up to this fact and start going after this story. The leftwing media is afraid to cover this because the american people may start to see how corrupt the UN and the other anti american countries are.
This tells you how truly evil the left and media has become. They will cover this up rather than any information come out that could justify any decisions Bush made on this war. They hate Bush and his administration and anything conservative that they will continue to spew anger, hate and anti americanism. I believe this all goes back to not being able to get over the 2000 election.
It is time to revolt against this anti americanism in our country by our own countrymen.
Reply 8 - Posted by: roland, 12/13/2004 6:35:20 AM
which'll get more airplay
Rich or Kerik ?
Reply 9 - Posted by: G2BME, 12/13/2004 6:39:32 AM
The dirt will always come out in the laundry. And it's time to do the laundry. I wonder how many registered repubs will go independant if GW doesn't begin fixing this mess.
Reply 10 - Posted by: Maybeth, 12/13/2004 6:57:20 AM
Regarding the above comments about members of the media ignoring this story, it tends to make 'them' appear corrupt too.
Reply 11 - Posted by: pineledger, 12/13/2004 7:05:02 AM
Why would Bubba endanger Hillary's chances by pardonning this crook? A little passive-aggressive thing going on?
Reply 12 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 12/13/2004 7:12:02 AM
As I recall, Rich offered to pay a fine of $200 million to Bush I's Justice Dept. in order to settle the outstanding charges, which was refused. Rich's lawyer in the pardon deal was a former White House Deputy Counsel (Greg Craig, I think). Whaddya think a Presidential pardon was worth to Rich. Now BJ has his lieberry and the lawyer has his Georgetown townhouse. Proud traitors in a long line of 'Rat traitors.
Reply 13 - Posted by: LetGeorge1, 12/13/2004 7:35:10 AM
The ease with which these people were pardoned, the number of people pardoned, the crimes they had committed, and the closeness of these people to Bill Klinton, and the silence of the MSM about this whole affair is a crime all within it's self. This whole affair, if put into books, would fill a room in the Klinton library.
Klinton was signing pardons though the night, just before him and Hitlary left with all the Whitehouse furniture. Talk about crooks! then the new Justice Department completely ignores the whole affair, like "Crooks, what crooks?"
Reply 14 - Posted by: LAW428, 12/13/2004 7:42:56 AM
It is long past time to wash this dirty laundry. When will we begin to hold these turds accountable?
Reply 15 - Posted by: pss, 12/13/2004 7:54:56 AM
Makes one want to throw up--preferably on them.Will the damage the Clintons did to this country never end? How to they possibly sleep.
Reply 16 - Posted by: HawgGuy, 12/13/2004 8:07:19 AM
Let's hope Claudia Rosette is on the case here too.
Reply 17 - Posted by: nevernaught, 12/13/2004 8:10:18 AM
More 'Post Pardon Depression' for Clintons and Dims.
Reply 18 - Posted by: shurnuff, 12/13/2004 8:21:22 AM
I know this sounds a little VRWC, but I would not be shocked to learn that clinton is entangled in the oil for food debacle.... and I'll bet a lot of you would not be either.
Reply 19 - Posted by: AppleAnnie, 12/13/2004 8:25:05 AM
My parents always taught me, ''No good comes from bad money.'' This was a clear answer to many of the ethical questions of my young world. It applies to life's larger questions just as well.
Reply 20 - Posted by: tpjones, 12/13/2004 8:30:25 AM
A fantasy: along about April or May of next year, a connection between Oil for Food and those white-trash two-bit sleazes from Arkansas, becomes so apparent that even the Times and the Post (not the alphabets, I mean even fantasies have their limits) must report it with some honesty.
Then within months both Clintons have been discredited. He balloons up to 400 pounds, she becomes bullimic and begins having bad hair days and missing important votes.
By mid-2006 she is up the spout. No senate re-election. Their "friends" begin deserting because there is no more power. By 2008 the notion of a third Clinton term has become a distant, though disgusting, memory.
Ah, fantasy!
Reply 21 - Posted by: Freedomlover, 12/13/2004 8:44:28 AM
Is there any wonder why Kofi Annan, Jacques Chirac, Putin, and the democrats all were so desperate to defeat President Bush?
Reply 22 - Posted by: klugzop, 12/13/2004 8:52:26 AM
My take on this is that he got all this money and was also the biggest funder of John Kerry. All the Saddam oil for food scandal money was being used to try to get John Kerry elected? Hmmph.
Reply 23 - Posted by: crlealsr, 12/13/2004 8:53:42 AM
I agree with the poster, I need a shower
Reply 24 - Posted by: janjan, 12/13/2004 8:56:52 AM
The Clinton's no doubt thought the Rich pardon would eventually blow over. Hillary can always claim that she had nothing to do with it and was, in fact, in the WH kitchen baking cookies at the time.
I don't think they counted on the UN getting caught and taking everyone down with the ship.
Reply 25 - Posted by: chatham, 12/13/2004 9:05:00 AM
As bad as the Oil For Food Program is I believe our southern Border with Mexico is and will continue to cause real internal economic and security problems in the United States.
In the O.f.F. Program with allies like we have in Europe , Who needs friends.
Same with Mexico.
Bush should stop alll Funds to the U.N. immediately until all information is presented for inspection and review.
To watch this third World Bushman/Thug Anaan spit in the face of the American Taxpayer is more than I can Stomach, This worthless S.O.B. has been living off the Backs of the American Taxpayer for years.
Reply 26 - Posted by: whiningdem, 12/13/2004 9:37:08 AM
Now is the time for Bush to start backing Putin wholeheartedly. Only Putin has the guts to stick up to the Russian Mafia. Putin won't send cops, he'll send a hit squad. If he takes out Rich, I would vote for Putin to be President here.
Reply 27 - Posted by: Moronika, 12/13/2004 9:40:28 AM
Don't be optimistic about anything happening with the oil for food scandal. Who knows maybe even President Bush is involved or maybe even his Dad? There big in oil.
Are you satisfied with our government and it's politicos?
Reply 28 - Posted by: Chief, 12/13/2004 9:41:42 AM
I have never heard why Vince Foster made those 4 trips to visit the Swiss during the 4 weeks before he was killed.Could old Vince have been a bag man for bj and piaps?Just wondering. SAT CONG
Reply 29 - Posted by: nattering_nabob, 12/13/2004 9:47:15 AM
Marc Rich would have done this with or without the pardon by Clinton.
Reply 30 - Posted by: Harmony1, 12/13/2004 9:49:24 AM
I hope the Prosecutors are going after the *Clinton Connection* since Slick 'pardoned' this International Criminal, Marc Rich.
We DO know that Bill Clinton had his hands 'all over Denise Rich' throughout *PardonGate*. Hillary had to know more than she'll Ever be able to Remember.
It will be a Repeat Performance of the Clinton Mantra *Deny, Distract & Destroy* when Bill and Hillary are confronted with the Facts.
Switzerland.....the Playground for Criminals...and I'm wondering where George Soros fits into all this....he made a Fortune from Russian Ventures while Clinton was Prez....
Reply 31 - Posted by: unix_geek, 12/13/2004 9:56:27 AM
Clearly #27 is aptly named.
Reply 32 - Posted by: recallhillary.com, 12/13/2004 9:59:11 AM
Per #20, it's not a big stretch for this scandal to move past her DC doorstep an his Chappaqua doorstep. Then, facing indictment and prison, they should flee the country and live with Marc Rich. Bill Weld would be a good appointment to serve out her U.S. Senate term.
As for #28 re Vince Foster, he probably did commit suicide after, as an honest man, he saw the incoming, broad scope tidal wave of corruption under the aegis of the Clintons.
Reply 33 - Posted by: Peter Zimbelman, 12/13/2004 10:12:54 AM
From #27: "Who knows maybe even President Bush is involved or maybe even his Dad?" Yes, it's possible - and don't forget Mother Theresa and Billy Graham...
You named yourself well...
Reply 34 - Posted by: Too Darned Honest, 12/13/2004 10:13:17 AM
If my memory is correct, Rich also was a player in the BCCI banking scandal in the late eighties. Former Secretary of State Clifford Clark was on the Board of BCCI. Rich was the conduit for a loan from BCCI to a company known as International Signal Control or ISC which was later aquired by a British firm named, Ferranti International. ISC made dentonation and guidance devices for the "fuel air" and other bombs. The CEO of ISC, James H. Guerin, was sentenced to prison for 15 years for defrauding Ferranti International by misrepresenting government contracts sales before the sale of his company to the British firm. During the Bush I administration, ISC shipped bomb components to South America where they were then re-shipped to Iraq. There are a whole lot of people in both parties that have been selling us out for a buck.
Reply 35 - Posted by: WyoEagle, 12/13/2004 10:17:44 AM
Polner told them they have no jurisdiction outside the US concerning oil deals. Real smart....why not just dare the IRS to take a look?
Reply 36 - Posted by: Too Darned Honest, 12/13/2004 10:21:07 AM
...correction the bomb components were shipped by ISC from the U.S. to South Africa and then shipped to Iraq.
Reply 37 - Posted by: Ratt, 12/13/2004 10:23:18 AM
Yo #32 , you can read about Vince Foster here .
Man, this Oil Scandal goes deep into the International Political World .
But , I have faith that nobody will go down. Our Gov't spent Millions to try and convict the Clintons with no success . The Clintons have been laughing at the Lil People for years and are still laughing. CWII is the only way Slick Willy and Hillary go down .
Reply 38 - Posted by: knub, 12/13/2004 10:28:31 AM
Vince Foster did not commit suicide. He committed Arkancide. Craig Livingstone, who was hired by Hillary to work in the White House, was somehow involved in the death of Vince Foster. I can't recall the article but I remember that he was mentioned during the discussion of the "suicide."
Reply 39 - Posted by: Dixie, 12/13/2004 10:47:03 AM
Re #26 and supporting Putin...let's not forget what that man just did in the Ukraine.
Reply 40 - Posted by: LadyK, 12/13/2004 10:50:40 AM
#14, we can't begin to hold the turds accountable until the MSM is held accountable by the American People. When the MSM is prosicuted for it's crimes the rest will follow. Though yesterday I heard a democRat operative say on Fox that the media didn't hold any story back....
BS!
The media held back and covered like a blanket for the Criminal Clinton Corruption Company, especially blatantly in the Juanita Broderick Rape story!!!
Now they are holding back on the Sandy Berger thefts....
Bloggers, it is open season on media corruption, starting with Dan Rather, and following through to the corruption known by Pelicano. The media has enabled a whole society of criminal behavior to seem the acceptable norm. Shame on the media and damn them as well. They need to be made obsolete.
Reply 41 - Posted by: Douglas DC, 12/13/2004 10:52:49 AM
There is another political family in big
Oil-the Gores,Armand Hammer's favorite family.As I recall Occidental has a finger in the Oil for food Pie too....
Reply 42 - Posted by: Altera, 12/13/2004 10:55:34 AM
"*Deny, Distract & Destroy*"
Add *Delay, Delay, Delay*
Reply 43 - Posted by: Dixie, 12/13/2004 10:59:16 AM
Re the suggestion that the Bush family connections to oil bear watching, I couldn't agree more.
I will not give the President a free pass on anything, given his actions regarding Mexico and his non-pursuance of Clintonian crimes. I just don't trust anyone with the kind of power the POTUS has.
That said, I also will state without equivocation that I think President Bush has been the best President in my memory (included Reagan!), quite possibly the best in history. He has done much good and much right under difficult circumstances.
Reply 44 - Posted by: LadyK, 12/13/2004 11:00:28 AM
How about plain old.... DECEIVE, DECEIVE, DECEIVE!!!
Reply 45 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 12/13/2004 11:26:45 AM
clinton has escaped any serious allegations of criminality, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to believe that some one who surrounded himself with various felons can himself be clean. Maybe he didn't
personally take part in any of this but its inconceivable that he knew nothing about what was going on.
Reply 46 - Posted by: Christie, 12/13/2004 11:53:49 AM
The last post has got a point, but it just shows the depth of depravity that the Clintoons went to line their pockets. At the very least, it should be good ammo for Hilly's run for the throne. If she has this klind of judgement, then what deals will she make if she wins? (That's a no-brainer to the non-lefties).
Really number 3, I'm way out here in S. Cal but I CAN hear her bleating: 'FIX IT, you twit!' I wonder if Kofi has had any telephone calls lately...from the Bubba.
Reply 47 - Posted by: Strike3, 12/13/2004 12:22:46 PM
This is the REAL clinton legacy.
Marc Rich made hundreds of millions and was able to buy the klintoons off for under two million in campaign contributions. Not a bad return.
After his investigation and impeachment, Slick was in debt about 9 million bucks but they seem to be living as large as ever these days. If he paid his lawyers with honest money, he would have had to make at least 20 million since 2000. He certainly didn't make it on the book.
Reply 48 - Posted by: IdSpud, 12/13/2004 12:29:07 PM
15 is on the money. It will be years before the damage the Clintoon's caused for this country is fully accounted. The only way we can stop this sort of thing is to be fully aware and keep the pajama brigade active
Reply 49 - Posted by: donna quixote, 12/13/2004 12:42:58 PM
Rich openly donated $2,000,000 to Clinton. We don't know how much was under the tableor skirt or pants suit.
Reply 50 - Posted by: PJSam, 12/13/2004 12:55:54 PM
Will anyone fix the lack of enforcement and corruption? When you realize all the "diplomates" and elected Politicans (and their media/Judical enablers) that knew about the oil for food Saddam corruption then I am surprised they attacked the US with 9-11. The Elites and connected would still be rolling in the Billionaire money if not for that and the call from the US public for a response.
Why has it taken so long for this to be revealed? Did Jamie Gorlick keep Mark Rich and the UN out of the 911 report?
It is scary that they are considering Lee Baca (LA Sheriff) for Homeland Security but he will walk in line with open borders and Pres Bush's lack of illegal enforcement . I read the "Smart Investing" for Calif where the feds and State of CA are giving foreign aliens preference in housing over US citizens who will not "Qualify" and tax credits for following the incentives which explains also why tax income is going down for the State and US ( It seems to be set up for the Elites to take advantage of(Kerry's Taxes 12%)illegals/tenants.
Reply 51 - Posted by: ivehadit, 12/13/2004 12:57:04 PM
The Clinton Administration: the most corrupt in American history, imho.
I remember thinking back in the nineties how the real danger with clinton was the fact that we could not see what was going on behind the scenes internationally, how he was selling us out. He had his hands on all our "assets" and he used them completely for his own personal benefit, imho.
It only goes to show that, now more than ever we cannot afford to have a rookie with questionable character in our highest office. The world community a.k.a. global socialists are NOT interested in our survival.
clinton opened the door to let them come in and savage our beautiful America.
God bless President Bush and the "A" Team. And please keep them safe.
Reply 52 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 12/13/2004 1:12:30 PM
Marc Rich could be subject to prosecution? If him, then also Clinton?
Reply 53 - Posted by: MsFalconersCabanaBoy, 12/13/2004 1:21:03 PM
This is what the blogosphere is for. If bloggers can't wring the truth out of this story, it can't be done.
I've raised the issue on The Pajama Pack. I'm sure the big blogs will do the same, and in much more detail.
This one, I'm keeping my eye on.
Reply 54 - Posted by: msjena, 12/13/2004 1:33:40 PM
Has Clinton released the names of the donors to his library? And just why did Denise Rich take the 5th amendment? I say, grant her immunity and make her talk.
Reply 55 - Posted by: lelande, 12/13/2004 1:56:24 PM
Just keep in mind that liberals lie when the truth suits better. They don't believe in the message of Christmas, don't care, hate Christians and lie, lie, lie.
Reply 56 - Posted by: Stars-stripes, 12/13/2004 1:59:44 PM
But don't you all remember, the PIAPS said she didn't know what was in those envelopes, she only passed them on.
Reply 57 - Posted by: first angel, 12/13/2004 2:10:46 PM
I did not have oil with that man... er Mr. Rich... I just gave him a Presidential pardon... er cuz I likes his wife... er but we were just friends and I did not have sex with that woman... er Mrs. Rich...and...
Reply 58 - Posted by: slickwillie2001, 12/13/2004 2:36:23 PM
Could this be why the democrats don't push reform at the UN and cooperation with the Oil-For-Votes investigation? Too much dirty laundry?
Reply 59 - Posted by: Cedarina, 12/13/2004 2:41:47 PM
You can take it to the bank that when the Clintons are involved there's big money at stake & most of it will end up in their bank accounts. Rich bought & sold the Clintons.
Reply 60 - Posted by: Dragonslayer, 12/13/2004 5:01:18 PM
Marc Rich is the gift that just keeps giving.
Reply 61 - Posted by: fairplay, 12/13/2004 5:07:35 PM
Now who and how is anybody going to crack this case wide open?
Reply 62 - Posted by: Armed Eagle, 12/13/2004 6:07:24 PM
If this investigation keeps going, I wonder if Clinton's "fingerprints" will be found involved some where under all the dirt?
Reply 63 - Posted by: Primal Screamer, 12/13/2004 7:19:15 PM
Money ($25,000 apiece) paid to the families of young, stupid, brainwashed Palistinians who blew themselves to smitherines in the midst of innocent Jewish men, women, and children (and let's not forget the infants who were amongst them, especially on the bus, when I started screaming) will be tied to BJ's monument to filth, sleaze, dishonor, unfaithfulness, narcisissism (don't make me look that word up), cowardice, and last but not least, to the shame and weakness he brought America to, BJ's fantasy doublewide and Monica (look-alikes; hell they're probably cross dressers for all BJ cares) message parlor in Arkansas.
Reply 64 - Posted by: realrep, 12/13/2004 7:56:11 PM
RE: # 32
'As for #28 re Vince Foster, he probably did commit suicide after, as an honest man, he saw the incoming, broad scope tidal wave of corruption under the aegis of the Clintons.'
I've been to the parking lot at Fort Marcy Park. Vince Foster did not have dirt on his shoes when the body was found. The entrace to the park has a dirt path. Unles he climbed over, under, or thru the split rail fence, there should be dirt on the shoes.
Reply 65 - Posted by: Sojakster, 12/13/2004 8:03:32 PM
Unfortunately, without the full cooperation of the UN, it will probably be an impossible auditing job to get to the bottom of this mess. Coffee seems to be in full-up stonewalling mode, so it's hard for me to be optimistic. Of course, the Dims in the US Congress will take the side of the UN and extend to that corrupt body the benefit of the doubt.
Reply 66 - Posted by: Trust No One, 12/13/2004 8:28:15 PM
There are two references to Rich's dealings 'after his pardon'. Parse that.
'After his pardon' - that my friends will be Bubba's story and he'll stick to it.
'Aaaaaa, this didn't have anything to do with his pardon, it all started AFTER I pardoned him.' (BW voice)
Reply 67 - Posted by: auntdot, 12/13/2004 8:41:08 PM
As a consequence of his quadruple bypass BJ Clinton has exhibited what cardiac surgeons call "pump-head" syndrome.
Over 40% of all patients who undergo cardiac surgery (requiring a machine to breathe and pump blood for them) wind up with varying degrees of brain damage.
After his surgery Clinton was unable to recognize a Secret Service agent who had been protecting him since 1999.
Clinton's defense could readily be that "I do not remember".
Reply 68 - Posted by: YY4U, 12/13/2004 11:11:57 PM
Clinton pardoned a crook! Who knew! (s)
Reply 69 - Posted by: stockfootage, 12/14/2004 12:15:59 AM
Please, Please, Please, Please, let PIAPS and her prince of darkness face justice.
