Charlize Theron LOVES Nelson Mandela
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Reprinted from NewsMax.com
James Hirsen, NewsMax.com
Friday, Mar. 19, 2004
Speaking of hype, at a recent press photo-op in Johannesburg, South Africa, Oscar winner tearfully told Nelson Mandela, “I love you so much.”
If Mandela looked happy, it’s probably because it’s not every day that an 85-year-old gets a squeeze from Charlize.
Theron let the 85-year-old leader know, “You are an inspiration for everyone.”
Well, Charlize, maybe not everyone.
On the eve of the war in Iraq, Mandela said, “One power with a president who has no foresight, who cannot think properly, is now wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust.”
He added, “If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America.”
Theron’s “inspiration” also has some strange taste in friends. He called Moamar Ghadafi “my dear brother leader” and awarded the Libyan dictator with South Africa’s highest honor.
He referred to Israel as “Zionist racists.”
He described Yasser Arafat as his “comrade in arms.”
He characterized Fidel Castro as “a man of the masses.”
Hollywood still loves this guy – whether he drives a hybrid car or not.
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'I love you' Charlize Theron tells Mandela, 'me too' he replies
Link from Drudge ^ | 11 Mar 04 | Associated Press
Posted on 03/12/2004 7:44:14 AM PST by AreaMan
Thu Mar 11, 9:21 AM ET Add Entertainment - AFP to My Yahoo!
JOHANNESBURG (AFP) - Oscar golden-girl Charlize Theron (news) was overwhelmed with emotion when she met South Africa's most famous statesman -- telling Nelson Mandela "I love you so much".
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Theron Overcome With Emotion While Meeting Mandela (AP Video)
Theron, who became the first African to win the Best Actress Award last month for her portrayal of a prostitute in the movie "Monster", held hands with Mandela, 85, during a photo-call at his offices in Johannesburg.
"You are an inspiration for everyone," Theron told the 1993 Nobel Peace Prize winner.
"Oh ... I love you too," the elderly statesman replied as he put his arm around the 28-year-old actress, who wore a plain white dress and had her hair tied back into a ponytail.
Mandela thanked "the girl from Benoni", east of Johannesburg, for "putting South Africa on the map."
"Even those who did not know it, now know where South Africa is," Mandela said.
People like Theron showed that the present South Africa was different from the country that suffered under apartheid, before 1994, Mandela said.
The former dancer turned actress was in the country to promote her movie and to take a break from Hollywood, but has been swamped by adoring fans and has given numerous press interviews since her arrival here on Saturday
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... the 28-year-old actress, who wore a plain white dress and had her hair tied back into a ponytail.
Ponytail: Something that hangs off a horse's ass.
Nelson Mandela, the man who loves the dictators of the world and has turned So. Africa into a third world craphole.
1 posted on 03/12/2004 7:44:15 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan Problably the only thing Mandela and I with agree on these days... ;)
2 posted on 03/12/2004 7:49:43 AM PST by MNlurker [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan I wonder how Charlize Theron feels about what is happening in Zimbabwe?
3 posted on 03/12/2004 7:50:20 AM PST by 2banana [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan Well, if Charlize Theron says 'I love you,' I think I can say with
certainty that 'Me too' is definitely the correct reply.
4 posted on 03/12/2004 7:52:46 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: 2banana I wonder how Charlize Theron feels about what is happening in Zimbabwe?
I wonder if she even knows. I think your question says it all, "...she feels..."
We all feel, but most of us combine our feelings with some thought.
Unfortunately Ms. Theron and her ilk usually do not and therefore end up hugging filthy animals like Mandela or Castro.
5 posted on 03/12/2004 7:54:31 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]
To: 2banana I wonder how Charlize Theron feels about what is happening in Zimbabwe?
She'll call her agent and her PR firm and get back to you.
6 posted on 03/12/2004 7:55:04 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan Mandela is the chief PR machine for South Africa and is what is keeping foreign interests' eyes turned towards SA.
7 posted on 03/12/2004 7:56:16 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan I've missed something along the way. What is the charm of a socialist who spent lot's of years in jail only to get out and con the world traveling around seeking a legacy like Bubba the demon from dogpatch?
8 posted on 03/12/2004 7:57:45 AM PST by Baynative (Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan I wish she said it to me
9 posted on 03/12/2004 8:00:26 AM PST by pugmehon (MARCH 4, 2004 ... and BEYOND) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan
Feel the love.........
10 posted on 03/12/2004 8:03:17 AM PST by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Baynative I've missed something along the way. What is the charm of a socialist who spent lot's of years in jail only to get out and con the world...
I ask myself the same thing when I see Robert Redford get up on his hind legs and look adoringly into the eyes of Fidel Castro.
Truly they are useful idiots.
11 posted on 03/12/2004 8:03:31 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]
To: Baynative Well, the reason he was in jail was due to his desire to overthrow a system in which the majority of the population had no voice in the government, restricted movement within the country, regulations on the location of residence or employment, and the inability to vote or own land.
12 posted on 03/12/2004 8:08:11 AM PST by NC28203 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan Who cares what some hollywood ditz thinks.
She sure is purty though.
13 posted on 03/12/2004 8:10:47 AM PST by keithtoo (W '04 - I'll pass on the ketchup-boy.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: NC28203 Well, the reason he was in jail was due to his desire to overthrow a system in which the majority of the population had no voice in the government...
True Apartheid was unfair. But even at the height of apartheid, black africans from other parts of the continent were clamoring to enter south africa.
Mandela's political goal of non-racist government was admirable but ultimately it was only window dressing for his ultimate goal of socialism. Now, people of all colors are equally oppressed.
14 posted on 03/12/2004 8:13:57 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]
To: NC28203 Well, the reason he was in jail was due to his desire to overthrow a system in which the majority of the population had no voice in the government...
True Apartheid was unfair. But even at the height of apartheid, black africans from other parts of the continent were clamoring to enter south africa.
Mandela's political goal of non-racist government was admirable but ultimately it was only window dressing for his ultimate goal of socialism. Now, people of all colors are equally oppressed.
15 posted on 03/12/2004 8:14:26 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]
To: Skooz That's his ex-wife's bag and one of the reasons why he divorced her.
16 posted on 03/12/2004 8:14:58 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan You say that all are oppressed. Does not South Africa have a democratically elected government?
17 posted on 03/12/2004 8:16:36 AM PST by NC28203 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies ]
To: cyborg True, Winnie was a full-on nutjob.
But Nelson is the intellectual equivalent:
Here we see him and Fidel before they go off on their honeymoon:
18 posted on 03/12/2004 8:20:36 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan "Even those who did not know it, now know where South Africa is," Mandela said.
Not to mention the Horn of Africa.
19 posted on 03/12/2004 8:21:50 AM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan; Ironfocus Yep. I know but it's a trade off. From what I've heard from friends who live there (one who has met Mandela personally) he still does a lot for South African public image. Personally, I have neutral views on Mandela. There are people who hate him and who love him.
I've also heard that Winnie is a loon. I think she may have went to jail for the murder of a fourteen year old 'dissident' but I'm not sure.
20 posted on 03/12/2004 8:26:38 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]
To: NC28203 You say that all are oppressed. Does not South Africa have a democratically elected government?
I'll let the people at AfricanCrisis.org make the case:
http://www.realnews247.com/terror_in_south_africa.htm
The lesson from Africa is that if you murder, intimidate and terrorise people enough while pumping hateful propaganda into their heads you can later stand proudly on the world stage and claim to be the voice of the masses!! Who ever said Communists don't have a macabre sense of humour eh?
Welcome to southern Africa, where the Terrorists win and where the murderers now make the laws and run the country. Is it any wonder therefore that crime is out of control (because they don't want to hang their buddies). Is it any wonder that over 1,200 white farmers have been murdered in South Africa in recent years?
21 posted on 03/12/2004 8:26:48 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan She is lucky she or her family members havent yet received the famous Mandela flaming tire
award
22 posted on 03/12/2004 8:26:53 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: NC28203 "...was due to his desire to overthrow a system in which the majority of the population had no voice in the government, restricted movement within the country, regulations on the location of residence or employment, and the inability to vote or own land."
Oh that clears everything up. No wonder he wants the whole world to become socialist. All our lives would be improved if only we could have...how did that go? Oh yeah, "no voice in the government, restricted movement within the country, regulations on the location of residence or employment, and the inability to vote or own land" - Sheez, of course he's loved by American liberals.
23 posted on 03/12/2004 8:28:41 AM PST by Baynative (Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan This is my take. South Africa under Apartheid was a horrible situation in which a minority race with exclusive power unfairly oppressed the majority of the citizenry. South Africa post-Apartheid is a horrible situation in which a majority race with exclusive power unfairly oppresses the majority of the citizenry.
24 posted on 03/12/2004 8:39:28 AM PST by Mr. Bird [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan White Liberal guilt on display.
25 posted on 03/12/2004 8:40:52 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]
To: NC28203 He was in jail for terrorist activity.
26 posted on 03/12/2004 8:43:03 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan Mandela: Admirable personal qualities, e.g., dignity, perserverence, good humor, stability under duress, all of which is outweighed by his abysmal political beliefs, which, if they were to carry the day in South Africa, would destroy the country, and, to the extent that they already are carrying the day in South Africa, already are destroying the country.
Theron: a severely unstable girl seriously traumatized as a child, which accounts for her strange demeanor during interviews and for the tears with Mendela, and which also allowed her to nail the part of Aileen Wournos.
27 posted on 03/12/2004 8:46:43 AM PST by beckett [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Finalapproach29er; All They jaild Gandhi too and he wasn't an accomplice to violence... but this is about Mandela.
Nelson Mandela – Biography
Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela was born in Transkei, South Africa on July 18, 1918. His father was Chief Henry Mandela of the Tembu Tribe. Mandela himself was educated at University College of Fort Hare and the University of Witwatersrand and qualified in law in 1942. He joined the African National Congress in 1944 and was engaged in resistance against the ruling National Party's apartheid policies after 1948. He went on trial for treason in 1956-1961 and was aquitted in 1961.
After the banning of the ANC in 1960, Nelson Mandela argued for the setting up of a military wing within the ANC. In June 1961, the ANC executive considered his proposal on the use of violent tactics and agreed that those members who wished to involve themselves in Mandela's campaign would not be stopped from doing so by the ANC. This led to the formation of Umkhonto we Sizwe. Mandela was arrested in 1962 and sentenced to five years' imprisonment with hard labour. In 1963, when many fellow leaders of the ANC and the Umkhonto we Sizwe were arrested, Mandela was brought to stand trial with them for plotting to overthrow the government by violence. His statement from the dock received considerable international publicity. On June 12, 1964, eight of the accused, including Mandela, were sentenced to life imprisonment. From 1964 to 1982, he was incarcerated at Robben Island Prison, off Cape Town; thereafter, he was at Pollsmoor Prison, nearby on the mainland.
During his years in prison, Nelson Mandela's reputation grew steadily. He was widely accepted as the most significant black leader in South Africa and became a potent symbol of resistance as the anti-apartheid movement gathered strength. He consistently refused to compromise his political position to obtain his freedom.
Nelson Mandela was released on February 18, 1990. After his release, he plunged himself wholeheartedly into his life's work, striving to attain the goals he and others had set out almost four decades earlier. In 1991, at the first national conference of the ANC held inside South Africa after the organization had been banned in 1960, Mandela was elected President of the ANC while his lifelong friend and colleague, Oliver Tambo, became the organisation's National Chairperson.
28 posted on 03/12/2004 8:48:46 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan She is a cutie for sure, and a good actress I hear. HAs anyone seen "Monster"? My daughter and her friend worked as unpaid extra's in a few scenes. They got to meet her and, oh, this other young actress, forgot her name...
I was just wondering about the movie, something about it makes me think that it might have shown some sypathy towards Warnos, the murderer.
29 posted on 03/12/2004 8:51:55 AM PST by Paradox (I have NO idea..) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Paradox ... was just wondering about the movie, something about it makes me think that it might have shown some sypathy towards Warnos, the murderer.
There was a movie in the 80's called Manhunter (Hannibal "the cannibal" Lechter makes his debut) where the protagonist says about the serial killer he is tracking,
"As a tortured child I feel sorry for him but as a sick adult I want to blow his f'ing head off" <
or words to that effect.I believe this would be my take on Warnos.
30 posted on 03/12/2004 9:00:37 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan There was a movie in the 80's called Manhunter
Yeah, great movie! Good soundtrack too. The protagonist actor finally got a decent job 20 years later doing CSI..
31 posted on 03/12/2004 9:07:33 AM PST by Paradox (I have NO idea..) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies ]
To: Paradox Yeah, great movie! Good soundtrack too. The protagonist actor finally got a decent job 20 years later doing CSI..
Yeah, but the real star of the movie....
The Chater Arms .44special Bulldog Pug loaded with Glaser Safety Rounds
32 posted on 03/12/2004 9:26:20 AM PST by AreaMan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies ]
To: Petronski She looks like a man in drag!
Not exactly enticing.
33 posted on 03/12/2004 9:31:09 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]
To: Finalapproach29er Nelson Mandela - was an ACTIVE terrorist, was captured and imprisoned. Terrorist attacks continued while he was in prison - the victims were not only whites - he NEVER repudiated his actions or that of his buddies. Subsequent to his release from prison, he conspicously supported even the most brutal, solcialist thugs at the head of assorted African 'nations'. He was and is a committed Marxist - whose beliefs help to keep millions in the worst, most miserable poverty in Africa while pocketing mega-millions of dollars in white-guilt payments extorted from the rest of the world.
34 posted on 03/12/2004 9:34:22 AM PST by NHResident [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]
To: Finalapproach29er Yes, fighting a regime that was highly oppressive to the majority of the population. If one does not have the ability to change the government at the ballot box, how does one make one's voice heard?
Were not the Patriots that tossed the tea into the Boston Harbor terrorists? They had no voice and they used illegal means in order to be heard.
35 posted on 03/12/2004 10:16:16 AM PST by NC28203 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]
To: NC28203 So violence is justified to make your voice heard? Like 9-11? Like the ETA bombs in Spain? Or the landgrabs in Zimbabwe? The ANC was invited to negotiate on numerous occasions over 15 years if they would stop the armed "struggle", and they always declined. In the end it was a moral and courageous decision by the whites that led to the end of apartheid, not the violence, sanctions, strikes or civil disobedience. Apartheid was wrong, and it was the right decision to abolish it. Some of your facts are not quite correct. Black land ownership was allowed, in the so-called homelands, which was the traditional tribal areas of the respective tribes. It was not allowed in the rest of the country.
Mandela is a better person than me, I would have been bitter if I had to go through what he did. He did an admirable job in preventing a major civil war in SA. As an administrative president, he was less impressive. The current situation in SA is bad, one bad situation has been replaced by another. Crime is rampant, the majority of South Africans are no better off than they were 10 years ago, the economy is increasingly being hijacked by a socialist political agenda and education is a total mess. It still is a beautiful country though.
36 posted on 03/12/2004 10:48:04 AM PST by Ironfocus [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies ]
To: Ironfocus No, violence is not always justified. ETA can go to the ballot box; the landgrabs in Zimbabwe are being done by the government; Al Qaeda should be working to change things in the Middle East and leave us out of it. The are cases that hardly justify violence.
As far as the economic situation in South Africa goes, yes, things currently are not great. But perhaps the economy of the U.S. was not as great immediately after the Revolutionary War as before it. After all, we had just been at war with our largest trading partner. I don't know if this was the case, but it seems plausible. But our forefathers were willing to trade economic security for liberty.
37 posted on 03/12/2004 10:58:05 AM PST by NC28203 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]
To: cyborg Bio was good except it doesn't say WHY he was arrested. Didn't he try to blow somebody up?
Shallow people were too busy swooning because he had the "right" skin color.
S. Africa is the rape capital of the world. Nobody seems to care that he was an awful, marxist politician.
38 posted on 03/12/2004 11:12:30 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies ]
To: Finalapproach29er To me he was no better than some of the folks in the National Party at the time. Mandela would NOT have been my choice for president at all because of those reasons. Communism did nothing for Russia, Cuba,etc.
39 posted on 03/12/2004 11:16:37 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies ]
To: Finalapproach29er He was arrested for illegal exit from the country and for his connections with the African civil disobedience program. In late 1962 he was sentenced to a 5-year prison term.
40 posted on 03/12/2004 11:19:15 AM PST by NC28203 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies ]
To: Finalapproach29er BTW, yes he was for pushing for a paramilitary wing in the ANC. The government locked him up for conspiracy.
41 posted on 03/12/2004 11:19:53 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies ]
To: NC28203 The National Party had no qualms arresting anyone who disagreed with them. Breyten Breytenbach went to jail twice. Once for marrying a Japanese woman and violating the mixed marriages and immorality laws, and another for speaking against the government. Gandhi was also arrested. Granted none of them served as long as Mandela did. Mandela just more revolutionary than they and gave them the ammo (no pun intended) to jail him for as long as possible.
42 posted on 03/12/2004 11:22:59 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies ]
To: beckett How was Theron tramatized as a child?
43 posted on 03/12/2004 11:28:40 AM PST by Ditter [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan; Paradox MANHUNTER..... the debut of Hannibal Lecter and the original Red Dragon. Good flick. The book has a much more satisfying ending though.
Charlize Theron - all that beauty yet so little to back it up. Sigh. Of course she has to make the pilgrimage to meet Mandela, a living secular saint and favorite of all the lefties. Seems like the last time I watched The Tonight Show with Leno Will Smith was on rectelling his meeting with The Great Man for the premier of ALI in SA. Why are they all so ga-ga over Mandela?
44 posted on 03/12/2004 11:30:25 AM PST by Rummyfan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies ]
To: Petronski If you saw Charlize Theron in Monster, you would see her kissing on another women and having a lesbian life style, then hooking and killing the men she got in the car with.
But then again, I forget Mel Gibson is the one we should hate, he is the one with the terrible film out!
45 posted on 03/12/2004 11:36:59 AM PST by JFC [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]
To: AreaMan CHARLIZE THERON: THE NIGHT MUM KILLED DAD
Mar 2 2004
By Tanith Carey, Us Editor In New York And Barbara Jones In South Africa.
CHARLIZE Theron, who won the Best Actress Oscar as a serial-killer in Monster, had a real-life brush with bloody death - when she heard her mother shoot her father dead.
Her terrifying account of that night of 21 June 1991 can be told for the first time today.
Never-seen police statements tell how Charlize, then just 15, feared she'd die as her drunken father Charles opened fire through her bedroom door.
Seconds earlier her mother Gerda had grabbed a gun to protect them. As Charlize cowered she shot her husband dead to save her daughter.
Charlize described to police how her powerfully-built father had turned up in a drunken rage after a row with Gerda, from whom he was separated.
In a threatening call earlier the builder accused Charlize of snubbing his relatives that evening. And when he found himself shut out of the family house in Johannesburg, South Africa, where Gerda lived with Charlize, rage turned to fury.
After he shot through the locks of the outer door her started to bang against the bedroom door.
She said: "We heard my father banging against the door. He tried to push open the door. Next moment another shot rang out.
"It went right through the door and out through my bedroom window. My father shouted he was going to kill us."
Her mother ran into the corridor and the next moment, Charlene told police: " I heard a whole lot of shots."
She came out to find the body of her father slumped dead. His younger brother Danie, who had accompanied Charles, had been shot in the hand.
Charlize, 28, has never gone into the reasons that led up to the terrifying events of that night, on one occasion even claiming her father had died in a car crash.
Until now the 20-page police dossier written in Charlize's native Afrikaans, has been kept from view. But after our application, South African police agreed to release it.
The report graphically describes how the marriage of Charlize's parents had collapsed.
Charles and Gerda had already split and Charles was living at his sister's home.
Other family members told police Gerda wanted an end to the relationship - but did not want a divorce for Charlize's sake.
No charges were brought against Gerda. Police ruled she had acted to defend herself and her daughter.
Soon after Gerda encouraged Charlize to leave South Africa after she won a modelling contest.
She settled in Los Angeles and found fame as a actress. On Sunday as Gerda sat in the auditorium as her daughter publicly thanked her, the past must have seemed a million miles away. This is what Charlize told police of the night her mum killed her dad,
My name is Charlize Ther-on. I am 15 years old, living at Cloveredene, Benoni. I attend Benoni High School.
On Friday 21 June 1991 my mother and I arrived at Mrs Malan's house (Charlize's aunt) in Cloveredene. We couldn't find the key to get into our house. When we arrived the deceased (Charlize's father Charles) was present. They (her father and others) were sitting in the kitchen and they were busy drinking. I couldn't say exactly what kind of drink it was. My mother got the key to our house. I could hear that my father was shouting at my mother. I heard my father's brother Danie Theron saying: "Why are you taking her side?"
They carried on talking but I couldn't hear exactly what was said. I left the house with my mother to go home. When we got there my mother locked all the doors. We put on our night clothes. The phone rang and my mother said not to answer it. But it went on ringing.
The phone stopped and then started to ring again. I answered it.
It was my father. He began fighting with me and said I had not greeted people when I arrived.
I said I hadn't seen them but he just began to raise his voice. He asked where my mother was and said: "Where is that bloody b****?" I told him to stop speaking like that. He said: "F*** you all". He slammed down the phone.
I said to my mother that I was scared. She tried to calm me down all the time but shortly afterwards we heard someone knocking at the door. I said to my mother that it was my father and that I was scared of him. I then went to bed and said to my mother that she should tell my father that I was asleep. I switched off my light.
My mother went to the kitchen. I heard her open the kitchen door but the gate outside was still locked.
I heard my father ask my mother why she hadn't left the door open for him. My mother answered that she and I were alone in the house.
My father began to swear and shout terribly. I never heard him swear like this before. My mother told him he was frightening her and that she'd never seen him like this before. He shouted if she didn't open the door that he would shoot her dead.
I heard the door bang shut and soon afterwards a shot went off. Then my mother was coming down the passageway. I heard a cupboard open.The next instant my mother stormed into my room. I heard another shot.
Soon afterwards we heard my father banging against the door. He tried to push open the door. Next moment another shot rang out. It went right through the door and out through my bedroom window. My father shouted that he was going to kill us, finish us off. My mother said he was going to kill us. She left my bedroom.
The next moment I heard a whole lot of shots. I don't know how many but it was a lot. I heard my mother start to shout and hysterical screaming. I left my bedroom. When I got to the passageway I saw my father's brother Danie Theron. My mother was in a corner of the bedroom. I ran to her. I ask her: "What happened?"
My mother cried and said: 'Charlize I shot them. I shot them. I saw the body of my father lying next to the stove. There was also blood.
I immediately shouted to my mother: "Oh My God. We must get away."
I got the keys to one of our vehicles. As I got outside I saw my father's brother. My mother shouted: "Go and call Wick." He is our neighbour. I immediately did it. He called the police.
In my presence, the body had no further injuries. At no stage did my mother consume any alcohol. She was sober.
GRANDMA'S TESTIMONY
TWO days after her son Charles died, Charlize's grandmother Elizabeth confronted Gerda at the house. She told police:
She said Charles had been furious and she and Charlize had locked him out.
She said Charlize had not greeted her father in front of the family. She said Charles and Danie were both drunk.
I asked her to show me how everything had happened. She showed me the kitchen door where Charles tried to get in. She said he had fired a shot.
We walked into the passageway and I asked her if that was where she shot Danie. She said Yes. We went to the bedroom where the shooting took place.
She showed me dried spots of blood. She told me: "Mother, he was one of the strongest of men. He did not want to fall".
I asked Charlize why she hadn't greeted her father in front of the family.
Maybe the shootings would not have happened if she had greeted him.
Charlize said: "Am I now being blamed?" She ran outside crying.
I asked her mother if she hated her husband, my son, so much, why hadn't she separated from him. She said it was because of the child, Charlize.
BROTHERS' TESTIMONY
CHARLES'S brother Danie was also shot by Gerda at the family home after a night of heavy drinking at their sister's. He told police:
While we were at our sister's, Charles's wife and daughter arrived.
Charlize did not greet her father. Mrs Theron said she was looking for house keys. My wife gave her the keys. They left.
He picked up the phone and called his home.
I could tell Charlize had answered. He asked her why she hadn't greeted him. Charles started shouting, saying: "F*** you and your mother".
Charles went to the house but was locked out
He shot the lock and then fired into the ground. I told him to stop.
Charles said to leave him alone. I decided it was safer to stay outside.
Shortly afterwards I heard a shot.
As I got to the porch door I heard a second shot and then more shots.
I saw Charles's wife standing in the bedroom. She immediately pointed a weapon at me and fired it. My hand was injured.
When I got to the outside I heard Charlize give a terrible scream.
46 posted on 03/12/2004 11:38:30 AM PST by Tnirp [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Paradox I would be ashamed to have my daughter as an extra in that movie. I did not pay to go see it. I actually, went to see another one and walked out of it, and out and in to 2 others before landing in Monster. It is a film that plays a killer as the victim. She was a good actress in the movie but it is a true story that the left like to portray their lifestyle on the rest of us who don't agree with it.
I would say...be careful what shows your daughter plays extra's in... but then It is all about the money with some I suppose.
47 posted on 03/12/2004 11:42:10 AM PST by JFC [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]
To: JFC Well, she was approached on the street, met the stars, and agreed to do it, I think they bought them lunch. Her parts ended up on the cutting room floor anyways (not much of a part, she was a passer-by.)
48 posted on 03/12/2004 11:52:43 AM PST by Paradox (I have NO idea..) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies ]
To: cyborg He was arrested, tried and convicted for conspiring to overthrow the government by violence. i.e. treason. That was not his only conviction, he was also previously convicted for contraventions of the anti-Communist act.
49 posted on 03/12/2004 11:56:38 AM PST by Ironfocus [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies ]
To: Ironfocus Exactly thanks for the info.
50 posted on 03/12/2004 11:59:10 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies ]
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CHARLIZE SLAMMED BY ESTRANGED FAMILY
Oscar-winning actress Charlize Theron has been slammed by her relatives, who accuse her of ignoring them on her recent trip back to her native South Africa.
After picking up her coveted accolade for her efforts in "Monster," stunning Charlize made her way back to her home country where she met up with the country's former president Nelson Mandela and AIDS orphans.
However, family members say she turned her back on them as they waited outside a charity event for hours in the hope of speaking with her.
Cindy Hearn, Charlize's 28-year-old cousin and childhood pal, says she and her daughters, Celeste, 6, and Cecilia, 2, stood for four hours on the night of March 10 outside a Johannesburg event hall, where Charlize was guest of honor at a charity gala for the prevention of domestic abuse.
But Charlize's limousine rolled slowly by her relatives as Cindy's daughters held up magazines in an eager bid to land an autograph.
A fuming Cindy, who grew up with Charlize in the rural farming town of Benoni, tells Star magazine, "It was humiliating and sad for us. She was too grand to even acknowledge us. I don't know how to explain to my two little girls that their 'auntie' is just too important for them now.
"She told the world she was bringing her Oscar home. Why doesn't she bring it to her real home and show it to all of us?"
Cindy's 16-year-old brother Hendrick Theron, who also waited, says he sent a note to Charlize through her security personnel, saying the family members were outside -- but never heard back.
Cindy and Hendrick's dad is Danie Theron, the brother of Charlize's father Charles, whom the actress' mother Gerda shot to death in 1991 at home in self-defense.
Relatives on her father's side say Charlize hasn't contacted them since leaving South Africa shortly after the incident.
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Two men's journey into the heart of darkness. While talking about movies.Elsewhere, Charlize Theron met Nelson Mandela, who might have employed his ubiquitous baggy shirt to hide an ageing erection. She was moved to tears by his praise for her role in Monster and his following chat up line of: "Even those who were ignorant of this place, having seen her, they must know now that there is a country like South Africa." How nice that these (presumably) cretins that Mandela spoke of find out about South Africa through watching a flick about an unhinged lesbian serial killer. Theron matched Mandela's eloquence with a teary "I love you so much." Although, football fans will know it's not the first time the ex-South Africa president has encountered a tongue-tied emotional blonde.
Charlize's 'inspiration' makes her cry
The Star
March 12, 2004
By Gill Gifford
Three small boys - the grandsons of Nelson Mandela - gatecrashed his press conference to meet Charlize Theron.
Shuffling into the auditorium at the Nelson Mandela Children's Foundation on the arm of the Hollywood beauty, the frail elder statesman beamed when he saw the boys seated in the front row of a packed audience.
"How did you know about this?" Mandela asked Mvuso (12), Zuko (11) and Andile Mandela (11).
"I've got connections, grandpa," Zuko chirped.
The brief meeting started under the authoritative instructions of Mandela's personal assistant, Zelda la Grange, who told him to start proceedings with his statement.
With his arm around Charlize, Mandela said: "She has put South Africa on the map. Even those ignorant of South Africa now know about us."
Charlize, wearing a shoe-string strap, white sundress with gold high-heel sandals and her hair tied back in a ponytail, appeared moved as Mandela continued to praise her.He told her that while the international community sometimes associated South Africa with apartheid, Charlize had shown that this was no longer the case - and "I am grateful to you for that".
As she started to cry, Charlize turned and embraced the old man.
"I love you so much," she said.
"I love you, too," Mandela responded.
"You're an inspiration to all human beings, not just South Africa," Charlize told Mandela.
Aware of his excited grandsons, Mandela asked her if she would be prepared to meet his brood.
Charlize shook hands with each of them and gave them an autograph.
Judy Sexwale, wife of ANC politician-turned-businessman Tokyo Sexwale, also made use of the opportunity to snatch an autograph of the Oscar winner for her daughter.Haiti, Oscars, and Fate
Opinion
Indian PokerBy Nick Rosenthal March 11, 2004
"I'm bringing this home to South Africa next week."--Charlize Theron, the untalented South African actress, referring to her newly-won Oscar."Fuck, man, I really need a ride to South Africa."--Jean-Bertrand Aristide, the untalented former Haitian leader, referring to the fact that he really wants to flee to South Africa.
CAPE TOWN, South Africa--The headline stares me in my chiseled, handsome face: "South Africa Celebrates with Charlize." The article informs me that Charlize Theron, the best actress Oscar winner, has promised to return to her homeland as soon as she can.
On the other side of the world, in Haiti, angry masses have forced their president to evacuate the country. He is seeking asylum in South Africa, but has no way of getting there.
An image passes through my head: it is of haggard, thirsty South African villagers celebrating upon hearing the news that their beloved Charlize has finally made it big in the States. When I say "thirsty," of course, I do not mean for water (the stream 45 minutes away provides more than enough refreshment--and cholera--for everyone), but instead for proof that their country has finally come to terms with its brutal past and is committed to equality for all its citizens. Clearly, seeing Theron's pasty-white face shed tears of joy on the one TV that the village shares--except when they don't have enough money to pay the electric bill--is more than enough evidence that the country is on the road to recovery.
Squeezed by all the Charlize-hype into the back section of the same newspaper, next to the "used mattresses for sale" section of the classifieds, is a smaller headline that reads, "SA would grant asylum to Aristide." The article goes on to detail the possibility that Jean-Bertrand Aristide, the recently ousted leader of Haiti (rumor has it that the uprising that eventually unseated him began when he held an ill-advised bake sale) will seek residency in South Africa. As of the writing of this article, Aristide is in the Central African Republic (which is, surprisingly, what the natives called it even before the Europeans arrived) looking to hitch a ride down south, but as of yet had not been able not find a flight.
In typical fashion, the response to Theron's Oscar triumph was exaggerated and overblown in a nation desperate for attention. The president, Thabo Mbeki, managed to make his country of 44 million sound totally pathetic when he said to the Cape Times, "South Africa has done it again: the Nobel prize for peace, the Nobel for literature, and now an Oscar for best actress." That quote is so sad that it's kind of like he's writing this column for me. Even Nelson Mandela grasped the opportunity to take off his plain father-of-democracy hat and put on his more festive movie critic cap; according to his spokesman, "Mr. Mandela was overjoyed--however not surprised--to learn that Charlize won the title." Mandela then returned to watching the director's cut of "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure," whose premier he unfortunately missed because he was, um, serving a life sentence in prison at the time.
News of Aristide's potential arrival caused barely a ripple, however, among the South African leadership. Upon hearing of Aristide's desire to seek residency in South Africa, Mbeki was quoted as saying, "How many awards has he won? None. Not even a daytime Emmy. Fuck him and his unsuccessful acting career, and you can quote me on that." Mandela's response was evasive: "Hey, shithead, you're blocking the TV. They're about to play ping-pong with Abe Lincoln."
Two figures walk together, hand in hand, on a dusty runway carved out of the jungle in the Central African Republic. The man is black and bespectacled; he speaks with a professorial tone. The woman is white and eerily thin; an aura of glamour surrounds her.
Woman: Jean-Bertrand, I have been waiting my whole life for our meeting.
Man: Um, okay, Charlize.
Woman: I have been following your schizophrenic career as military strongman/democratic reformer in the newspapers for so long, I feel like I've known you ever since you first took power. I'm so glad I was able to stop here and take you to South Africa with me.
Man: Yeah, this place blows, thanks for picking me up.
Woman: No problem.
Man: And I have been following your acting career since you were a young girl, waiting with anticipation for the day that you would win an award equaled only by the Nobel Prize.
Woman: I have something else to tell you. I fomented the rebellion in your native country, and then planned for you to be sent to the middle of Africa, just so we could be united.
Man: And I have something to tell you. I used my intricate web of connections within the American entertainment industry to assure your victory at the Academy Awards. I knew you would feel obligated to return to South Africa, if only so that the populace, which often lacks basic utilities, could bask in your glory.
Woman: Oh, Jean-Bertrand, let us go to South Africa together. We have the entire world thinking that what we know is fate is a mere coincidence...
Nick Rosenthal is a Columbia College junior majoring in political science. He is currently studying abroad in Cape Town, South Africa. Indian Poker runs on alternate Thursdays.
